Muskoka Recovery Center

Are the Pickerel Lake Recovery Center and the Muskoka Recovery Center related?  We have had a comment on our blog suggesting this.  If you look at the website for Muskoka Recovery Center and for Pickerel Lake Recovery Center they do look very similar.  The pictures of the rehab center on both sites look the same.  The phone numbers are the same. There certainly has been a lot of discussion about Pickerel Lake Recovery, so maybe this is a name change to help deal with this.  I suggest that you visit both websites and decide for yourself. As always we ask people to do as much research about a drug and alcohol rehab program as possible, and visit the rehab and talk to current clients before you commit and spend any money.  Here are the two websites so you can look and decide about the similarities yourself.

Muskoka Recovery Center

Pickerel Lake Recovery Center

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98 Responses to Muskoka Recovery Center

  1. MuskokaFine says:

    Will Repost one of our press releases to answer the reason we changed and added another name online

    Muskoka Recovery Center- Steps Towards A Better Recovery Center For You And Your Recovery
    Addiction Treatment Center in Muskoka gets slandered and smeared by many of those they have tried to help or have even employed over the past 5 years.
    People suffering from addiction and many of those that work in the industry seem to be just as sick as the others. Muskoka Recovery Center also Pickerel Lake Recovery Center has taken many hits online by those that either failed at recovery or were employed and were fired for not being able to maintain the high degree of professionalism needed by those working in this industry. All the aforementioned people have taken to the internet to smear the good name of the treatment center or its owners for trying to help but now deflecting their own transgressions. But not all bad has come from these abundant posts online that continue to this day, “we always take the good from bad” says John Haines, Director and owner of Muskoka and Pickerel Lake Recovery Center, we have taken a look at all the complaints and criticism and benefitted by changing and making better such as the employees, the amenities and even the food. Haines himself doesn’t mind that his shady past is posted for all to see online but that fact is that it is many years ago, some old criminal charges and some nasty allegations but “That is why my addiction recovery has changed me, I am not that same person anymore, I do this business to give back to the world that I so took for granted in the past” says John. “People change for the better when they truly overcome and recover from their addictions”.

    Muskoka Recovery Center/ Pickerel Lake Recovery Center is the result of the work of John Haines along with many faithful employees and friends along the way over the past 5 years. John Haines has grown from a small 10 person facility in Toronto to the large beautiful facility it is now in wonderful Muskoka. The negative online campaign that started over 2 years ago by failed and upset clients and fired employees has helped somewhat in making positive changes and to make it that much better. In every bad there is good The result is one of the best facilities in Canada and Haines states, “truly as these disgruntled people state online what goes around comes around or karma, so will ring true for them.”

    At Muskoka Recovery Center, we are having highly skilled professionals taking the process of recovery to the path of success. With privileged facilities and latest treatments we ensure that our patients get comfortable ambience that helps in recover faster. This alcoholism Rehab Center of Canada is considered as a well known recovery location. The most significant facts about this rehabilitation Center are:

    • In the country it is seen as one of the best recovery centers which have highest success rates.
    • This is a rehab providing guaranteed success on recovery programs.
    • For Methadone addiction it is considered as the only Rehabilitation Center offering recovery treatments.

    On a land of serene beauty in Northern Muskoka, Muskoka Recovery Center is situated over an area of 140 acres. In 2005, the Founder & Executive Director of Pickerel Lake Recovery Center, John Haines, began to develop a model for a distinguished addiction treatment Center. Later with the help of 5 years of consecutively hard work and thorough research he managed to stage a center in North Muskoka at Pickerel Lake now called Muskoka Recovery Center. Now indulging advance treatments and routine counseling we are serving several people to overcome from addiction situation.

    Our team of professionals holds expertise in their work area. We indulge a staff of:

    • Physicians who specialization in medicines for addiction detox.
    • Psycho-therapists
    • Certified addiction therapists
    • Spiritual health counselors

    Thus, having staffs who all work with complete dedication we provide renowned services with the purpose to make our patients feel comfortable. In our recovery center you will come across all the elite resort-like facilities such as gym, indoor pool, lounges and so on as to get you every sort of facility under one roof.

    To know more about the recovery treatment programs or any other services, contact us at 1-877-966-6887 or email us at info@muskokarecovery.com.

    • admin says:

      Why do you think Muskoka Recovery or Pickerel Lake Recovery has been targeted so much? A lot of drug rehab centers have clients relapse. A lot of rehab centers have clients leave a program early. A lot of rehabs have had to let staff go. What is it about your particular situation, that has some people working so hard to spread such a negative message about Muskoka?

      • SmokeOxy80s says:

        John, not going to answer this? Every rehab has client failures and has to fire staff. Why does your centre have so much more negative attention then the other places considering they all have these same problems?

  2. MuskokaFine says:

    And Muskoka Recovery Center as was earlier posted was last November when we finally moved into our Muskoka location did not apply for rezoning because the realestate agents that were involved from the area did not inform that anything would need to be changed for rezoning and the town issued notice and a cease and desist order.
    Well we challenged it and won as with our hired planners and local lawyers we have changed and are now going for rezoning for future development and road allotment……so contrary to other reports and posts on this site we are NOT operating illegally nor is the town taking us to court.
    We are growing and becoming larger and better to battle this terrible disease of addiction.

  3. muskokarecovery says:

    Yes, Pickerel Lake Recovery and Muskoka Recovery Center are the Same. This is according to John Haines Press Release. Another Name Change?

    https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/220847#longdescr

    People suffering from addiction and many of those that work in the industry seem to be just as sick as the others. Muskoka Recovery Center also Pickerel Lake Recovery Center has taken many hits online by those that either failed at recovery or were employed and were fired for not being able to maintain the high degree of professionalism needed by those working in this industry. All the aforementioned people have taken to the internet to smear the good name of the treatment center or its owners for trying to help but now deflecting their own transgressions. But not all bad has come from these abundant posts online that continue to this day, “we always take the good from bad” says John Haines, Director and owner of Muskoka and Pickerel Lake Recovery Center, we have taken a look at all the complaints and criticism and benefitted by changing and making better such as the employees, the amenities and even the food. Haines himself doesn’t mind that his shady past is posted for all to see online but that fact is that it is many years ago, some old criminal charges and some nasty allegations but “That is why my addiction recovery has changed me, I am not that same person anymore, I do this business to give back to the world that I so took for granted in the past” says John. “People change for the better when they truly overcome and recover from their addictions”.

    Please go to the link below for more information: You can also Google: John Haines, Pickerel Lake Recovery, Muskoka Recovery Center, Lotus, eviction, scam.

    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/vita-novus-new-life-recovery-center-stouffville-ontario-c353871.html?page=11

  4. MuskokaFine says:

    See the above post from muskokarecovery is exactly what we are talking about and that is why we finally commented above.
    By the way “muskokarecovery” do you have the consent to use that name?…..You are infringing copy write by using that name without consent and taking part in slandering and “cyber bullying” as well.
    Now who is the criminal of recent? who is doing illegal things?….this person and the others that with court order, soon to be had, will force every site they post on to give up their IP addresses and then we will see who truly gets involved with the OPP.
    Now having said all that please read the above posts and learn the truths of what Pickerel Lake and Muskoka Recovery are truly doing to change people’s lives.
    Pay particular interest to some of whats posted above as the person using the name of “muskokarecovery” we are sure is talked about.
    Yes we know who you are (aka…”the jig is up” among others.)
    All of the mentioned in the above and recently posted is also verifiable by calling the town and the authorities.
    Good always prevails and what goes around comes around!!

  5. muskokarecovery says:

    Spoke with the Town. Well, John you are a Liar! I know, no big news.

    Please call the Town: Municipal Office
    56 Ontario Street, P.O.Box 533
    Burk’s Falls, Ontario Canada P0A 1C0
    705 382-3332 or 705-382-2954
    Fax: 705-382-2068

    They will tell you John is Still Operating Illegally. Zoning laws have not been dealt with. They are still going to Court. Court date put off until December. Yes, please call and see for yourself. This is Public Information.

    Johnny, Johnny, Johnny. When will you start to tell the Truth. Charged for Dealing, Money Laundering, Assault, Impersonation Lawyers. I will stop for now. But please, call the Town as John has asked. You’re a Stupid Man John. ‘You can fool some of the people some of the time, but, everybody is On To You!

    • admin says:

      We can hope that Muskoka Recovery Center will post on line their approvals for all to see. That would seem to be a simple solution to this issue, and hopefully would resolve it for all concerned.

  6. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    http://blog.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/2011/12/16/welcome-to-pickerel-lake-recovery-center/#comment-100

    Thank you to Canadian Drug for this Forum! If it wasn’t for Forums like this bringing issues like this to light, and actually holding people, companies in the Rehab Business accountable, a lot more people would be victimized. This industry is NOT REGULATED and Scam Artists are taking advantage of this!

    We have seen that some in Rehab Business actually think it’s ok to tell lies about their Rehab Centers. In this case One of Them Got Caught in a very public way. Now the word is out.

    The individuals who attend these Rehab Centers are not at a good point to begin with and fasting talking Conartists in the rehab business can and does Victimized them again, and again.

    When they leave, they are thinking I just spent $30,000.00 dollars and I am no further ahead. For that kind of money I think you should be getting more than the 12 Step Program. People have to beg and borrow, Families go in Debt sending Loved Ones to Rehab Centers. Conman are filling their pockets!

    I think they deserve much better Service then they have been receiving at places like Pickerel Lake Recovery, now called Muskoka Recovey Center. This is according to Former Employees of the above Rehab Centers. Just read some of the blogs above or do a Google Search.

    Again, Thank You Canadian Drug for this Forum and I believe by doing what you are doing and getting the message out, You Are helping some of the most Vulnerable in Our Society by providing the kind of information that you have been on this Forum!

    http://blog.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/2011/12/16/welcome-to-pickerel-lake-recovery-center/#comment-100

  7. muskokarecovery says:

    To the POLICE, Please please please, We are all asking You to Put this Man in Jail for being an Idiot. ((An idiot, dolt, or dullard is a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way.)) This is posted by way of legal requirements: Criminal Code, Section: My name is John has and I got busted Big Time on this website when I tried to tell more lies.
    CCC Sec. 123,456 or 7: My name is John Haines and this is the only way I can try to stop the Truth about my Illegal Rehab Centers from coming out. By trying to intimidate people ((Definition of INTIMIDATE. : to make timid or fearful : frighten; especially : to compel or deter by or as if by threats))

    So as most of us know, John Haines is the Author of all the posts telling us how great John or his Illegal rehab clinics are. He uses: TeamVita, Walkthewalk, Legal Symtec among many, many other names on this and many other websites.

    Please take the time and go to the blog below,. pay attention to: WalktheWalk/Feb 23, 2012 http://www.complaintboard.com/vita-novus-new-life-recovery-center-l780.html

    Here John once again was telling everyone what a great healer John Haines is. But you are not supposed to know it’s John Haines who wrote this post, because, well, he thinks everyone is stupid…., How is your nephew John. I hope it all worked out well.

    By WalktheWalk/Feb 23, 2012
    I just learned that Vita Novus had moved to Muskoka under the name of Lotus Treatment Center. I cannot for the life of me understand all these complaints I’ve been reading about. Are you all some unhappy patient who has relapsed or have you not worked your program or maybe you were an employee who didn’t turn out well or maybe also relapsed? I had a nephew who was at Vita Novus some time ago and the changed man we received back home was amazing!! Vita Novus kept in contact with us since we live out of province. We conducted our weekly meetings via phone and teleconferencing. John is an amazing healer and while my nephew was there I did visit a couple of times with my sister and learned from other family members of patients how happy they were to see their loved ones come along so remarkably well. They told me the meals were fantastic, they were all very well-cared for, wonderful rooms with TVs, recreation and more. We learned that many have relapsed and those like my nephew have tried so many short term programs. They just do not work for the majority. That is why a long term place is necessary for patients like my nephew. So for you and everyone else here who lodge thewe false complaints to ruin someone’s reputation, please read on.

    I see complaints about John being a criminal, alcoholic etc and in recovery himself. I don’t believe this information was ever hidden. Have you never watched Dr. Drew who runs a weekly TV show and has the Pasadena Recovery Center in the US? He and his staff were at one time all in recovery and therefore who best knows their patients? I think you should all be searching your souls for the way you and others have behaved here, like a bunch of snivelling, whiny kids who need to get a life and grow up!! You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves, trying to dishonour someone’s reputation when he’s doing so much good for those WANTING the help! You are the ones who all need help. If your program did not do it for you then seek ongoing help through your local addiction centre, but YOU have to do the work, not expect some miracle to bring you back to life. Recovery places give you the basis and all the help you need to carry on but YOU need to continue working your programs, helping you with your sobriety or addiction. My nephew has learned this. So obvious you are all carrying this grudge because you need to blame your faults on someone else! My nephew has been doing great by following up and from the person he was (a total mess) to the young man he is now is totally amazing! We are so proud of him and many thanks to Vita Novus.

    Once again, To the POLICE, Please please please, We are all asking You to Put this Man in Jail for being an Idiot. Remember, the law clearly states that IT’S NOT SLANDER WHEN IT’S TRUE!!!

  8. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Test 1,2,3 is anybody there? Admin: It was asked that muskokafine post the letter to put this to rest. It appears they had decided not to because the “Letter” clearly states, Stop “Your ILLEGAL OPERATION.” By the way, as this is a Township matter and as mentioned before, because Tax Payer’s Money is being Used to Stop this Illegal Operation, to take John Haines to Court, you can request a copy of the “Letter” from the Town.

    But it was good to see that Pickerel Lake/Muskoka Lake Recovery and John Haines the Great Healer, were willing to post the “Letter” to put this to rest. Good to see John. NOT!!! Why is that?

    Another thing, yes, you do need to call the Fire Department, the Town and let them know that a fire place that was already known to be “unsafe” was used during the Power Outage. Tell them you want an investigation into this because John Knowingly put people’s lives, his clients lives at risk by using a “unfit’ fire place.

    Someone asked earlier, Why do we have Zoning Laws?

  9. sexualassaultatpickerellake says:

    Lets start this off by stating some facts: A Male Nurse was caught at Pickerel Lake Recovery/Muskoka Recovery Center ” Inappropriately Touching” a ‘Client’ who was PASSED OUT in Detox. How did John and his Wife Linda respond to this – Well, They quietly let the ‘Sexual Predator’ go on his way, probably to Assault someone else, his next Rehab Victim.

    Did they call the Police as they are Duty Bound to do? Did they call the Police to protect their Client who they care so much about? NO, THEY DID NOT!!! They Covered Up a SEXUAL ASSAULT. The Police will find out when the Investigate if there was more than just ‘Touching’ an Unconscious Victim, or as John calls them, his Clients.

    John and Linda, You are both a F****** Pigs. You Covered Up a Sexual Assault. Wow!!! You let this happen to another Female Linda, just turned a Blind Eye? Are you proud of yourself? What was your Refund Policy with this Client John who was Sexually Assaulted when She was Passed Out?

    As for the Employees of Pickerel Lake Recovery/Muskoka Recovery Center who knew about this and Did Not Report it to the Police, You are just as Guilty! You too Covered Up a Sexual Assault.

    I will let John respond. Lots more information coming after John Haines responds to this. To the Employees of this Illegal Rehab Center, probably a really good idea to get on the Phone and speak with the Police like maybe NOW.

    What, you think John is going to lie for all of you. It is a Criminal Offense Not to Report a Crime that you knew about. In this case the Crime was a Sexual Assault on an Unconscious Female Victim at Your Illegal Rehab Center, and You All Knew About it. I’m waiting John….,

  10. johnnylovesyoualot says:

    Enough is Enough!!! Armourtownship, You Need to SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN NOW. TODAY!!! The Media, the Police, and the Government need to know about this place, about John Haines, and about this SEXUAL ASSAULT at Pickerel Lake Recovery/Muskoka Recovery Center that was apparently COVERED UP.

    So just to understand, you catch this guy committing a Crime at Pickerel Lake Recovery, the Sexual Assault, but you let’ him go, you don’t report him to the Police, just let him walk out????????? Wouldn’t expect anything less from you John!

    You think he stopped Sexually Assaulting (Passed Out) people now John. You don’t think he would continue doing this now he knows there is No Consequences?????? Like the fact that he Wasn’t Reported, Turned in to the Police?

    By the way, to the Employees who knew about this BUT did Not Report it to the Police, it’s been already said but I will say it again, You Covered Up a Sexual Assault! John Haines is a Known Criminal, but it seems those who are employed by John Haines the ‘Great Healer’ are following in his footsteps.

    So ignoring a Cease and Desist Order, using a Unfit/Unsafe Fire Place isn’t all that is going on at this place. Now we have a Sexual Assault. My question, if there was One Sexual Assault that you/we know about, I wonder how many more happened that you did not know about OR that you knew about but didn’t reported to the Police John?

    Anybody who has any more information about this or any other Sexual Assault that happened at Pickerel Lake Recovery or Muskoka Recovery Center is asked to post that information on this site. Better yet, call the Police with the information and then post it here!!!

  11. johnnylovesyoualot says:

    Admin:

    I very much doubt that John Haines will be coming forward to explain; How do you explain the fact that you did Not Report a Sexual Assault to the Police, a Sexual Assault that happened at your Illegal Rehab Center???? Yes, this is a question??? Any thoughts John???

  12. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Before I say anything else, They Are Still Operating Illegally. There is Still A Cease an Desist Order in Place. You have read the ‘Press Release” above where John Haines is LYING AGAIN ABOUT HE CEASE AND DESIST ORDER. THEY ARE NOT COMPLIANT WITH ZONING, COURT DATE IS STILL DECEMBER. AND NOW…..,

    Yes. This is what they are trying to do. John, his Wife, his PR Lady Gail Smith from Newmarket are trying to tell the Town that Muskoka Recovery, Pickerel Lake Recovery Center will no longer have Doctors on Site or Dispense Medication on Site. This is to try to meet Zoning Laws before the December Court Date.

    But, that is Not the Truth, is it John. Are you Dispensing Medication at Pickerel Lake John???? The answer is Yes, John. People, please remember, you are dealing with a Conman, a Known Criminal and Liar who will Do Anything For Money!!!. This man Owes Lots of Money to Lots of People!!!

    And again, this place, John Haines, His Wife, Staff, Gail Smith did not report the Sexual Assault to the Police. In fact they let the Guy who Committed the Sexual Assault go and hid this altogether.

    A unreported Sexual Assault???? Don’t send you Daughter or any Loved One’s here unless you want them to get Sexually Assaulted!!!!
    To the Staff of Pickerel Lake Recovery/Muskoka Recovery Center, Let me guess, since the News about the Unreported Sexual Assault came out, John has told all of you about the fact that you all signed the Confidentiality Agreement when you started working for him. How did I know???

    Please understand something, That Agreement does apply to when you See or Hear about a Criminal Acts committed on the Property where you are working for John Haines. I know he tried to tell you that, but remember, he is a Conman trying to Protect only himself.

    Staff members who knew about any Criminal Acts committed at Pickerel Lake Recovery/Muskoka Recovery, including this Sexual Assault, and Many, Many of you did, Will Be Held Liable when Charges are Laid. It’s simple as that so forget about any Confidentiality Agreement that you think you have with ‘the great healer’, John Haines. If you are Not sure, Call a Lawyer and after speaking with the Lawyer, then call the Police which is what the Lawyer will tell you to do!

  13. admin says:

    Muskoka Recovery, the new and improved version of Pickerel Lake Recovery Center has added a Opiate Addiction Specialist Physician to their staff. There is a shortage of detox facilities in Canada so I am sure this will be a welcome choice for those looking for detox from narcotics. For more details about their expanded services and additional locations, see below.

    Click Here for the details:

  14. SmokeOxy80s says:

    This guy allowed his male nurses to go in and touch female patients while they are nodding out on his beloved suboxine drug. Its the next methadone, kids are already getting their hands on the tablets in the streets. From what I hear the nurse was busted while starting to put his hands down her pant at front. From what it sounds like the police were not notified and the guy wasn’t even fired. There is video recording in every room so there is no reason he couldn’t have gone to the cops after or even now.
    So when we went in we asked about all of these allegations about sexual assault, tax problems, and lawsuits. John Haines assured us the allegations were false and that the people posting it on the internet were just mad former clients. We soon found found out the problems would happen to us too. Dont let him assure you that you are different, or “it wont happen to you”, or “they are lies”.
    There used to be wal mart trips to the town to get treats and food for clients. Then a client somehow met his drug dealer there and purchased some oxycontin. Because of this one guys move the wal mart trips were cancelled and theer was no way to get food, snacks or treats. The actions of one person should not effect the care and activities of the whole.
    The manager when I was there his name was scott. He was the MANAGER and he was clean for a very short time. I have learned that he has since started drinking again and relapsed back. He was a very sly gentleman, you could tell in his eyes he was up to no good.
    Most of the employees are former junkies. Nothing is wrong with that, its actually good so they can relate. The problem is that some of them are only a few months clean. Some are just half a year clean. Some of the tratment lengths are half that length so some of them might have been out of their own rehab for three months.
    The nurse named “MILES” (male) is not a good nurse. He will not even give you a HALLS for a sore throat and cough. He thinks you are trying to get high on a halls?? I think the most active ingredient in halls is eucalyptus oil??? I understand not handing out tylenol and such but halls or ricola??? He also SWORE at some of us. He didnt believe us when we didnt feel good and felt like laying in our rooms and not going to activities. The one time he did let me not go to a activity. I had to walk back to the nurse station (10 minute walk) every hour. How am I supposed to rest and get better when im walking OUTSIDE to get to th other building all the time to get your validation that I am sick?? I dont feel good, who are you to tell me I dont.
    There was a running joke while I was there that the place was “shutter island” because of how far north it was. The sad thing is that’s not far from the truth. Whenever I complained about one of the other employees about a legitimate concern about something they would sweep it under the rug and worm their way out to protect their fellow employee. I didn’t think it was appropriate that I walk 10 minutes every hour outside while I was sick to get validated. I told someone else and was basically told that they think I was faking sick that day. How did they know? That person wasn’t even working that day. You basically have to be emotionless there. If you get upset over something legitimate they claim you are having a “tantrum”. If you don’t agree with an activity they are doing and don’t want to do yoga they say “ you aren’t doing enough for your recovery”. Well I don’t do yoga. The people that want to get along basically are zombies. And that’s how they try to get you by prescribing almost everyone a healthy dose of seraquil as soon as you are admitted.
    When I was admitted we were told there would be fishing and boat use. That never happened despite four repeated requests. Another one of John Haines lies.
    Months and months later there has been no follow up from the facility to check on me.
    The pictures of employees have been taken down because it’s a revolving door and they couldn’t keep up.
    I’ll post some more later.

  15. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    First of all to SmokeOxy80s, thank you for your Post. Yes, you heard correctly about the Sexual Assault. A male Nurse put HIS Hands down the pants of a PASSED OUT CLIENT.

    The only other thing, you still NEED to call the Police. They are still in the process of gathering evidence about this Sexual Assault at Muskoka Recovery/Pickerel Recovery Center. Anybody who knows anything about this Sexual Assault, Call the Police.

    I will tell you now that charges will be laid!!! Why, because John, I will make sure of it! You, your Wife Linda and Staff who knew about this will have a few charges coming too John; it’s called OBSTRUCTION there Mr. BidLaw!

    You see, the Criminal John Haines thought, he, his wife Linda and other staff who knew about his could just sweep it under the Rug. Not this time Johnny Boy!!!

  16. MuskokaFine says:

    Well here we go again more lies and slander.
    Please people understand this person caughtinyourownlies…. is spreading vicious lies and illegal content and allegations.
    THERE NEVER WAS ANY SEXUAL ASSAULT!!….the OPP have no investigation just call the OPP burks falls detachment and ask.
    This is their attempt at trying to make this center be marked or labeled as bad for the area and their own VINDICTIVE actions to try and get our center shut down
    We are closing in on identifying these criminals like Liz Little, Leslie Th…, Sunil Ram, Bill VanDuzen and the others.
    You see you make mistakes and we get your area IP’s and are closing in.
    One great example……. Admin when you posted the zoning ad link caughtinyourownlies went and tried to post there

    here is what they posted:

    Comment Title: John Haines Pickerel Lake Recovery and Muskoka Recovery Center ** Sexual Assault * Fraud * Scam * Criminal
    Author: John Haines Pickerel Lake Recovery and Muskoka Recovery Center
    Email: gettingcaughtinyourownlies@gmail.com
    Link to content: http://www.treatmentmagazine.com/newswires/322-operation-pars-federal-nimby-suit-big-success.html

    Comment:
    There is a Rehab Center in Burk’s Falls Ontario, Canada that has been going through Zoning Issues.The owner of this Rehab Center is a Known Criminal charged with Drug Dealing, Drinking and Driving, Impersonating a Lawyers, Assault, etc…,

    Canada at this time does not have Regulations regarding Rehab Centers. This is why individuals like John Haines are able to get away with ripping off addicts when they come to his Illegal Rehab Center. Armourtownship is Burks Falls, Ontario is taking him to Court in December. This is the Second Court Date. John and his ‘group’ are stalling, not wanting to go to Court.

    There was a Sexual Assault that happened that went unreported to the Police. A Former Employee broke the News about this Sexual Assault at Pickerel Lake Recovery or Muskoka Recovery Center very recently.

    http://blog.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/2011/12/16/welcome-to-pickerel-lake-recovery-center/#comment-100

    Here is what the US Business owner of that magazine responded to you;

    Hi whoever u r,
    We r intrigued by ur accusations but turned off to by the fact that u have not named urself and are making these VERY serious charges anonymously…
    AND FOR UR INFORMATION THE ADDICTION TREATMENT FIELD IS LITTERED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS….the reason for that is AT LEAST 80% of the people in the industry are in recovery themselves and, as a result of conduct while they were “out there” they acquired records…and I have seen it range from Heinous Felony Murder all the way to Jaywalking…
    Only after u identify urself and all allegations are validated will we possibly consider publishing ur comment…
    Feel free to call me…
    Ted Jackson
    Editor and Publisher

    Well guess what caughtinyourownlies@gmail.com we have your IP and are closing in much like the others who we are getting court orders
    guess what its called criminal harassment and as we posted before the exact charges under the criminal code that you will be charged under
    as well the spreading of those criminal and very serious allegations and getting police to look into a phantom allegation to benifit yourself and hatred for Mr Haines (see above ….”I will tell you now that charges will be laid!!! Why, because John, I will make sure of it!”) look up Mischief its what you and these others are guilty of under criminal code maybe also your own interpretation of Obstruction will backfire on you

    HEAR THOSE FOOTSTEPS???….thats the police or process server coming for you all very soon!!

    NO CRIMINAL CHARGES for Mr Haines, Family or employees who have all been in to see the OPP in Burks Falls asking that they investigate all you NAMELESS cowards in this blog.

    thats right Muskokakarma it will be Karma coming yours and your cohorts way!!

  17. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    John, BOTTOM LINE John, YOU DIDN’T REPORT A SEXUAL ASSAULT ON A HELPLESS PASSED OUT FEMALE CLIENT AT YOUR ILLEGAL REHAB CENTER. YOU THE MAN JOHN, yeah, for sure, YOU THE MAN!

    Again, thanks to the Former Employee who brought this Sexual Assault to light. If it wasn’t for you, this would have been just swept under the rug. Again, as I have said, as well as Admin has said on several occasions, f you know anything about this Sexual Assault, call the Police with the information.

    Admin, also, the email John Haines posted from Ted Jackson, well, it’s not accurate. I would call it a Lie. Well, you can decide for yourself. Admin, you know Ted. I have already sent Ted Jackson an email with John Haines Misquote.

    MuskokaFine says:
    October 14, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Only after u identify urself and all allegations are validated will we possibly consider publishing ur comment…
    Feel free to call me…
    Ted Jackson
    Editor and Publisher

    Here the is the actual email. Read the last line. From the research I have done, Ted, like you said seems to be a Fair Guy. This is why I reached out to him in the first place. I have informed him about John Haines Misquote, Lie, call it what you want. I will be following up with him this week.

    Yes, I am very serious when it comes to protecting the Vulnerable from the likes of the Scam Artist John Haines, His Wife Linda and their PR Lady Gail Smith.

    On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, wrote:
    Hi whoever u r,

    We r intrigued by ur accusations but turned off to by the fact that u have not named urself and are making these VERY serious charges anonymously…

    AND FOR UR INFORMATION THE ADDICTION TREATMENT FIELD IS LITTERED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS….the reason for that is AT LEAST 80% of the people in the industry are in recovery themselves and, as a result of conduct while they were “out there” they acquired records…and I have seen it range from Heinous Felony Murder all the way to Jaywalking…

    Only after u identify urself will we publish ur comment…

    Feel free to call me…

    Ted Jackson
    Editor and Publisher
    561-702-4235

    Hmmm…., So again to get back on track: John Haines, Currently ignoring a Cease and Desist Order, lying to everyone about it for a year, stalled one Court Date already, next Court Date for John Haines is December, use of a Unfit/Unsafe Fire Place, Unreported Sexual Assault, Numerous Criminal Charges, Unlawful Dispensing of Medication (more on this later) Claims that his Staff have all kinds of Accreditations. What was it, Accreditation with C.A.R.F. and others??? Post it John! No, eh John. Is the because you lied again. Yes, that’s what it is!

    Even Admin said your were welcome to post receipts to show you have at least started the process. Again, No, eh John? I didn’t think so. I know you can’t help telling Lies. I know John, I know! You were asked to post their Accreditations. NOTHING? You were asked to post the letter from the Town, NOTHING?

    You have been caught in numerous lies Mr. Haines. Actually, on this very website. Numerous times! Yes, I will say it once again, it takes time for the Police, as you know John, to gather evidence, but please understand John, You and your MOLESTER FRIEND both have charges coming. Yes, I have a problem with your Male Nurse Sexually Assaulting a Passed Out Client!!! I have a BIG PROBLEM WITH IT! Yes, I know you don’t John. You’ve proven it!

    You must feel like a big man John protecting a Molester at your Illegal Rehab Center. You never did tell us your refund policy with her John. Did you give her the money back? No, I didn’t think so John.

    This is the guy who wanted to shut this website down because the truth was getting out about his Scams. As I said before, people just didn’t start to Hate you overnight for no reason. Google, John Haines, Criminal Rehab Owner, Drug Dealer, Scam Artist, Impersonating a Lawyer, right Mr. Bidlaw, etc…, It’s all there. Been there for years…, I am sorry John; that’s not my fault, I can’t change that fact that you are an Asshole. You are a Known Conman, and you will always be a Conman, end of story!!!

  18. MuskokaFine says:

    Caughtinyourownlies or Liz and Sunil and Leslie Tho….. and the rest will all be in front of a judge real soon because of your lies and hey while none of us need to make reference to what recently happened regarding cyber bullying there is laws against cyber bullies and people like you that hide nameless and tell these preposterous lies
    NOW HEAR THIS……..THERE WAS NO SEXUAL ASSAULT!!! ever so nothing will ever come of it but you will soon be shut down!!
    You and all your sick friends will get whats coming legally!!

    Ask the Admin here …..I think their last comment here was something like ” I have stated several times if they have any information about an assault they should take it to the police. Being that they have not, or come back on here and said they have most likely states to the quality of the information.” thats right you nameless hiding cyber creeps your worse than you allege of Mr Haines

    As for Ted Jackson of Treatment Mag …….. please do call him so he can tell you himself the so called “misquote” was quoted to Mr Haines on the phone when they spoke he said he should have included in his response to you that only ever with “absolute confirmation” would he or his publication of great ethics and importance to this industry ever publish what you wrote.
    Again call and ask him

    …… ya thats right feel that????….the wall is closing in around you and you will very soon be exposed for what you are ………. a bunch of pathetic lying, slanderous, malicious quite possibly neurotic individuals.

    Sad the bunch of you keep up this charade

    There is NO proof in anything you have said!!
    ONLY that you hate John Haines and will do anything like lying and telling wicked sick tales such as these to try and achieve some form of damage
    Fact is you are all sicker than the people we treat at their worst

    But hey I hear that its not too late for treatment and yes as Mr Haines says…………

    EVERY LIFE IS WORTH SAVING ……… EVEN YOURS

  19. cluck says:

    “gettingcaughtinyourown liesjohn”
    Thank you for the eyeopening summary posted above. I am releived to have found this site. I, too, know of some of this to be true.
    Wondering who the former employee was that came forward about the sexual assualt? Good for them!!!
    Clients sleeping together and counsellors having sex with clients??
    Is there truth in this as well? I am concerned for the welfare of ALL involved. Doing my research….

    • SmokeOxy80s says:

      when i was there there was FORSURE counsellors having sex with clients. The women counsellors would take advantage of sick male clients. The male counsellors slept with female clients. I think there was about three instances.
      There was a female counsellor believe to have been caught having sex with a male client in the downstairs pool area.

      KEITH was caught with a female having sex during an intervention apparently??? And the list goes on.

      Its dispicable that these women counsellors take advantage of very sick male clients

  20. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Hey “Cluck,”

    Glad this information is helpful. Are you a former client who was ripped off? Several former employees have come forward to report this Sexual Assault. Although it’s going to take some time, All Employees will be interviewed by the Police regarding this Sexual Assault at some point.

    What some of these employees don’t realize, and I think they just don’t know, that there is a good chance they will be CHARGED WITH OBSTRUCTION, among Other Charges. So again, if you work or worked at Pickerel Lake Recovery/Muskoka Recovery Center, Call the Police, about this Sexual Assault, because they WILL BE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH YOU!

    Certainly those who did know and did not report this Sexual Assault will be charged. This means for sure, John Haines, his wife Linda, and key Staff who covered this up, including the MOLESTER, WHO JOHN LET GET AWAY!!!

    Cluck, You may also want to post this question on,
    http://blog.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/2011/12/16/welcome-to-pickerel-lake-recovery-center/#comment-100

  21. MuskokaFine says:

    OK supposed former client SmokeOxy80 – we have you named now so you and caughtinyourownlies will soon be in front of a judge….yes a “Class Action” lawsuit as you have not only committed slander and defamation again John Haines but also many others who are involved in suing you. Named 2 types for certain are Harrassment and Oral Defamation lawsuits.
    Cyber bullying is illegal and will not be tolerated specially since the Amanda Todd unfortunate and terrible situation. See we have hired the same company along with investigators to track/hack you all down
    Sunil Ram and his Employees all signed contracts so he and his company will loose licensing as will Liz’s husband loose his police pension, and Leslie hope your husband is used to spending his millions on your mistakes, and ms switzer your husband will appretiate as will your kids your swapping party with your boss.

    Now as per recent aftercare one former client came forward after reading your terrible sexual assault allegation and knows who started this rumor as she things it was her they were speaking of well she is well protected with our organization and lawyers and will provide the “real”truth that it was a FEMALE nurse that dressed her after she passed out and was sick in detox…….Just terrible you have turned this out ;like that…….she felt violated not by the FEMALE nurses help but by you sick individuals who post on here and other sites…….we are now having investigators and police look into this now criminally and as we said before we will ensure all you deplorable individuals are locked up!!

  22. MuskokaFine says:

    Admin we were just being sarcastic that thats what SmokeOxy80 called themself.
    One thing that is clear is that SmokeOxy80 has said they were at the center when this all happened yet they themselves waited till now to come online and say anything, and to say they have knowledge about a sexual assault earlier this year why did they themselves not report it??
    Tell you why……..Because they are all lies and unfounded
    We see that names of employees were named and they have since joined the growing list of Plaintiffs
    On another note we would like to inform everyone that every employee that deals directly with clients, which includes medical, therapeutic, counseling etc must provide to Mr Haines’ corporation all professional licensing and documentation that includes “vulnerable sector search” – Yes Oxy80 and caughtinyourownlies….. that means no sexual predators no one that gets by police screening…….. but you all knew that right??

    Anyways soon you will all be given the opportunity to say SORRY!!!

    • admin says:

      opps sorry I misunderstood

    • admin says:

      I am not clear if SmokeOxy80 said they were at the rehab center when the alleged assault occurred. They did say that they saw inappropriate sexual contact between staff and clients, from the description the contact sounded consensual…but again there have been a lot of comments so I may be mistaken.

      • SmokeOxy80s says:

        I was not there for the sexual assault/rape or whatever happened supposedly. I was there when female counsellors having sex with male clients,etc though supposedly

  23. Olive H says:

    PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY CENTRE – INFORMAITON REQUIRED:

    This message is going out to all or any who can help by providing me with any information about Pickerel Lake Recovery Centre or John Haines himself. I am looking for some helpful information to any of these questions as well as any other information you can give me, good or bad on this facility whether it be from your experience as a client, or past/current employee, or you know of someone who stayed there. Thanks for your help.

    * Did you go through Medicard to help you finance the stay? And did you do any research on them…wondering if they are affiliated with John Haines in any way.

    * How did you find out about this facility? ie. Addictions Canada web site, friend/word of mouth, Pickerel Lake web site, your doctor

    * Did you bring in any of the current medications you were on and if so was there any documentation provided to you (witnessed) showing you did in fact forfeit the medication, as well, did you receive any documentation of how or when it was disposed of? (ie. to a pharmacy/doctor)

    * What type of processed was followed during the initial consultation upon your arrival? ie. were you weighed, any medical history discussed, were you aware if they would be contacting your doctor to request information.

    * Where you given ANY medication PRIOR to seeing a medical doctor? If so, for how long were you given any medication before you were able to see a doctor in order to get a prescription in your own name?

    * Were you ever advised of any types of contingency plans in the event of any kind of emergency. ie. medical emergency, fire, intrusion, power outage.

    * Were you given any information prior to the exchange of money indicating that this program would be solely based on the 12 step/big book beliefs?

    * Did you feel like you got what was promised to you? ie. proper medical care, regular visits with a certified doctor, activities advertised, regular “one on ones”, after care

    * Did you find the facility was providing your family/loved ones with false information during your stay? ie. telling your family you were doing well when if fact you were not, ignoring/not returning calls from your family

    * Did you professional? ie. always available, talking on their cell phones, bringing in Tim Hortons coffee, being respectful to clients

    * Did you at any time feel that your safety was at risk? Did you feel the safety and security of the facility was adequate? ie. no possibility of intrusions, harm from other clients/staff

    * Did you feel your needs were treated in an individual manner as opposed to being lumped in as a “drug/alcohol addict”?

    * During the over night shifts how many staff were available in the event of any emergency issues such as counselling, medical issues, safety issues?

    * If you chose to leave the facility earlier that the time you had committed to, how were you treated? Was the staff still friendly, did they show concern, did anyone give you contact information to “keep in touch”

    * Did anyone from the program contact you after your stay whether you completed your program or not?

    * Did any of the staff ever offer you drugs or alcohol during your stay promising you any preferential treatment?

    * Did you prior to, during, or after your stay find out any information about this facility that was unsettling to you? ie. lack of qualifications of staff, improper dispensing of medication

    Please know, I am someone who sent a family member to this facility and was very disappointed with everything that had to do with this place. I have legitimate concerns and need as much information as I can from everyone in order to pursue this. Any information you can provide me with would be greatly appreciated. Yours Truly Olive H

  24. Olive H says:

    I am adding this post to share some news to all the readers, both the folks that naively believe in John Haines and to those who know the truth about him and don’t believe in him. As those of you who vehemently deny that John Haines is operating his Pickerel Lake facility illegally should, I called to make some enquiries to Armour Township, asking once and for all what the status of Pickerel Lake Recovery Centre is as far as zoning and operating legally goes. I was told, not that it was a surprise, the following: John Haines obtained control of the location which was once a resort, moved his staff in and started up a rehab. Yes, it’s as simple as that. Without regard of any zoning laws, he simply opened up a rehab with the intent to continue to collect huge amounts of money from vulnerable ‘clients’, ignoring the world around him, until the walls finally close in on him and he is forced to shut it down. Armour Township is currently awaiting a court date for this issue to be heard in Superior Court. In order for this place to open and operate ‘legally’, it requires an amendment to Armour Townships “official plan and zoning by-laws”. The bottom line people is this issue has NOT been resolved – therefore Pickerel Lake is operating without authorization from the township, essentially John is taking money from clients KNOWING this place can be shut down at any time. In my personal opinion I am sure he is in the process of looking to secure ANOTHER location to continue his ‘business’ once they close the door on this one.

    What I fail to understand and probably never will is how reasonably intelligent, maybe even educated people, can work for this man. I see people come on sites like this and defend this man, and seriously, you can only question their intelligence!! All of this information about John being a liar, fraudster and scammer are all FACTS that can be proven, how do Johns supporters not see this?? Do they not EVER look into this guy, or do they just keep their head in the sand and continue to support and defend him – at the RISK OF THEIR OWN FUTURES AND REPUTATIONS?? I am actually embarrassed for these people who come on here and say ‘that’s not true’, ‘John is a good guy’ when they KNOW the actual truth about this guy.

    Yes, some of the people posting against John are very passionate and in the process of trying to express themselves come across as rude or slanderous, but folks these people should be passionate! They have themselves or know of someone who has been scammed by John, and for a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. What I do find shameful is all these ‘caring’ rehab workers can’t see that and they spit back rude insulting comments all in the name to defend their commander in chief. NOT ONCE have I EVER seen a defender of Johns be compassionate or show ANY kind of sympathy for people who feel they have been ripped off.

    So the bottom line here is – THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS – they are very easy to look into and obtain. PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY CENTRE SHOULD NOT BE DOING WHAT IT IS DOING ON THAT PROPERTY!! And the very very sad part of all this is people are still handing over money to this man all in the name of trying to help a loved one – and one day the township is going to come in and change the locks on the door and where will those people be left??

  25. muskokakarma says:

    Although staff have come on these blogs in the past to defend John, it’s mostly him responding to these blogs. Staff are starting to catch on. Once they realized that they Would be Charged Also for Not Reporting the Sexual Assault that they Knew happened at Pickerel Lake Recovery, I think some of them realized that the great healer might be a FAKE and Not Worth Going to Jail For!!!

    I understand some staff have come forward to speak with the Police about the Unreported Sexual Assault at Pickerel Lake Recovery, now known as, ((SOON TO BE CLOSED)) Muskoka Recovery Center.

    Sexual Assault, Use of a Unfit Fire Place, Cease and Desist Order, Illegal Operation of 4 rehab Centers, Illegal Dispensing of Medication,
    on, and on, and on…,…,….,

    • Olive H says:

      It is a true shame how long all of this has gone on! Well I must say I am doing my part to shut this guy down and at the very least publicly expose him so not one more single person gets taken by him or his ‘followers’. I am still looking for information from my previous message – if there is ANYONE out there that wants to help me by providing me information to any of the questions I asked I would appreciate it. This needs to keep going folks. It’s the only way we are going to see the right thing done here.

  26. muskokakarma says:

    You are Right in everything you said. This is why it is important to Call the Town of Newmarket and the Newmarket Newspapers with this Story. John Haines is Operating Illegally in Newmarket Also, How it works recovery plus 3 other Illegal Rehabs on the Go.

    Actually, call every Newspaper, Television Station you can think off. You see, Cockroaches don’t like the spot ‘light’ on them and tend to scurry away and hide when they are EXPOSED!

    Don’t feel like you are doing this all by yourself Olive. There are many of us who are with you. Also, I don’t think the Town would have any issue with anyone coming forward and becoming a Witness for the Town in the Court Case coming this December Against John Haines and his ILLEGAL REHAB CENTERS.

    Something to think about for All of You Who were RIPPED OFF BY JOHN HAINES. See you in Court!

    • Olive H says:

      Thanks for your comment ^^. I am doing EVERYTHING I can to take this all the way. I don’t want to say what I have achieved so far or what my plan is to go ahead with this as I don’t want to show my cards to John or his followers- but rest assured I have made A LOT of progress – found a lot of informaiton and have several “significant’ people in my corner. I WILL be in court when the day comes and I hope others will be as well. In the meanwhile, I will continue to plug a way with this – just like John Haines – I WILL NOT GO AWAY. I will not stop until I get satisfied that I have done as much as I can. muskokakarma – is there any way we can chat privately?

      • admin says:

        Well the people from Pickerel Lake Recovery and Muskoka Recovery have certainly said many times they are taking all the people on the blogs to court…so maybe it is fair play that some one is planning to take them to court.

  27. muskokakarma says:

    Admin, I don’t think Anyone knows what’s coming John Haines way!!! Yes, also employee of this Illegal Rehab Center(s) too. When you Knowingly work for a Conman and Cover Up his Lies, that tells me a lot about you. “Birds of a Feather, Flock Together, YES, THEY DO!

    One reason I believe some of these “employees” are working/hanging around there is because of “Access to Drugs” at these Illegal Rehab Centers! For those of you who have attended this Illegal Rehab Center, Olive asked a question that is Very Important:

    * Did you bring in any of the current medications you were on and if so was there any documentation provided to you (witnessed) showing you did in fact forfeit the medication, as well, did you receive any documentation of how or when it was disposed of? (ie. to a pharmacy/doctor)

    Remember, 100% of the Councillors he used were addicts. I wonder where the “Pills” went??? John, any information you want to provide for everyone reading this about how you disposed of the “DRUGS”???

    By the way, this is Not a Knock against these individuals. The point here is that John Haines Knowingly put these addicts in a position of authority at his Illegal Rehab Centers. Many blogs out there where previous employees have come forward and stated that they were “HIGH” When doing Interventions.

    Olive and Anyone Else, INCLUDING YOU JOHN, can reach out to me at: illegalrehabownerjohnhaines@gmail.com

  28. Olive H says:

    All these places are for to post ther opinion and experiences, and I know some people have been very passionate in their delivery – but the facts are the fact and those facts can’t be argued by John Haines or his followers. I feel as long as folks stick to the facts, it will be up to the courts, media, and people like us to once and for all get these places looked into and I hope shut down. It’s a tough situation for anyone and their family to go through (addiction) in the first place, but when you find out you’ve been ripped off or treated in a terrible way, it’s just so truly unfair. AND I believe those that are taking advantage of these vulnerable people should be held accountable. I know as a fact what my family member when through and I am well aware of the financial price along with the emotional strain crossing paths with Haines has created in my family and it has to stop. It’s a shame that Haines and his followers are trying to peg people like us as nasty relapsing addicts/family members of such or ex bitter employees as an excuse for their actions as they try to deflect the truth. I actually find it kind of scary when I read ‘their’ posts – they start off somewhat professional and quickly become full of hate – in my opinion very cult-like. Our family are respected professional people that happen to have one member get caught up in addiction – being treated like dirt while reaching out for help is the last thing we expected. Haines will be taking no one to court, he would be too afraid to hear our story come out. I believe he is waiting and expecting each one of us to just go away – which I can promise will not happen. As I have stated, I have done my homework and have files of information as well, I have several people in my corner that are willing to take this to the ‘next level’. Something good will come out of this, I am sure of it – everyone has to come forward though with their stories and put in the little effort and we all together will push this forward. Things like this doesn’t just happen in the movies, it’s real and needs to be stopped. Thanks for reading – Olive

    • admin says:

      It is truly unfortunate that your experience was so negative. Did you seek help for your family member elsewhere? Was it successful? Thanks again for all your information.

  29. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    http://www.treatmentmagazine.com/newswires/346-canada-center-has-ex-cia-rcmp-ferret-cyber-defamers.html

    Do this mean Jason Bourne is coming after us John? Again, hopefully your New Hired Help will tell you to get All of your Current Illegal Operations Zoned Properly.

    I see you forget to tell Ted Jackson and mention in your “ADD” in Treatment Magazine that currently, All of Your so called Canadian Rehab Centers are OPERATING ILLEGALLY! I know, Holy Shit is Right. That’s a really big thing to leave out of your advertisement John. But, you are not known for Telling the Truth, are you?

    I also notice that you failed mention the fact that you are being taken to Superior (Canadian) Court to put a end to your days of stealing money from people, from Operating Illegally. You know, from Ripping Off People, great healer!

    I also noticed that you failed to mention about the unreported Sexual Assault at Pickerel Lake Recovery and Muskoka Recovery in your advertisement. What is wrong with you John? You are forgetting Lots of Important information about your Illegal Operations. Smarten up there buddy boy!

    Six Million Canadian Dollars in Revenue? Wow! Revenue Canada will be pleased to hear that! You know Revenue Canada John? Aren’t they after you for some money also??? Also, All the People you OWE MONEY TO, will be pleased that to hear that.

    How about, YOU’RE FULL OF SHIT! How about your Illegal Rehab Operations, Muskoka Recovery and Pickerel Lake will be Shut Down Very Shortly! The Court Date is Coming Up This Month.

    Hey, how’s thing going with your Illegal Rehab Centers is Aurora and Newmarket, Ontario? You know, Vista Novus and How it Works Recovery? Yes, we all know they are Not Zoned Properly Either! Did you get your Cease and Desist Letter from the Town of Aurora and Newmarket yet???

    How is the CARF stuff going? You were going to Post some information for all of us. What happened John???

    There are Many of Us who would love a Day in Court with you great healer! The Judge needs to hear the Story about the Rip Off Artists, John Haines. The man who has been Defaming, Slandering people for years. The man who has been stealing money from people for years. So please, please Come and Get Me!

  30. desperate mom says:

    Brand new to the site, have never signed up for blogging before and here I am…. I was getting a referral for my son to get help, from O.A.T.C. staff, and after researching this place I am reading all this.

    All I want is some help for my kid… and all I get is disappointment, lack of knowledge, and garbage. Anyone have any ideas on finding a reasonably priced, cause the free ones are almost non existent, medical detox of methadone?? I would appreciate “real” help please..

  31. muskokakarma says:

    ADMIN,

    I GUESS IT WAS TIME FOR ANOTHER NAME CHANGE. SO JOHN HAINES IS DOING IT AGAIN, ### NAME CHANGE TIME AGAIN####

    John Haines the Criminal Rehab Owner, Rip Off Artist has ANOTHER REHAB “BUSINESS” SO THAT HE CAN RIP OFF PEOPLE. GOOGLE THE WORDS, VISTA NOVUS OR Addiction Canada Treatment Network, KIJIJI.

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    Address Burk’s Falls, ON P0A 1C0, Canada

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    Our Centre offers complete Holistic care and the foremost in Counseling and Therapy from certified and licensed counselors and therapists.

    We are now recognized and registered with the Association of Addiction Treatment Providers and being certified by CARF Canada.

    For IMMEDIATE help please call us
    1-877-966-6887

    http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-services-other-Addiction-Canada-Treatment-Network-W0QQAdIdZ435140297

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  32. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Reposted from: http://www.reviewstalk.com/complaints-reviews/pickerel-lake-lodge-recovery-l114/page/14

    Court Date for John Haines: The meeting on Tuesday at Armourtownship was informative. John Haines is Stalling Again, so looks like the December Court Date is put off again. The paper work he did submit to the Town, well, it’s a joke. So, John Haines will continue to operate Illegally for now. We did talk about the name change to Vita Novus, and Addiction Canada Treatment Network.

    *** So, John Haines has opened shop again in York Region, Aurora,Newmarket area. The newer Illegal Rehab Centers are called, Addiction Canada Treatment Network and Vita Novus. He is referring to Pickerel Lake Recovery and Muskoka Recovery as Vita Novus now also. The Rehab Center’s down in Aurora are operating ILLEGALLY. Don’t forget How it Work’s Recovery, also, OPERATING ILLEGALLY!!!

    He tells everyone that they do not dispense Drugs/Medication, but they do. Again, Everyone, you have to call the Town of Aurora and Newmarket and let them know what he is doing and although they know, tell them all about his legal issues going on with Armourtownship, and the ‘THOUSANDS” HE OWES IN BILLS TO CONTRACTORS, ETC…,

    I understand Revenue Canada would like to speak to Former Clients, Contractors, etc…, about John Haines and his ILLEGAL OPERATIONS and the Six Million Dollars that he told Ted Jackson in Treatment Magazine that he has made. ALL HIS CURRENT OPERATIONS ARE ILLEGAL. I know, you are just trying to help people with addictions, right John?

    How about you are a Scam Artist, a Thief, and John, you are a Low Life. The Scum of the Earth! More Name Changes for your ILLEGAL OPERATIONS, Wow!!!!

    Hey John, How’s the CARF stuff going. Everyone here is still waiting for you to Post the information. Google Addiction Canada Treatment Network and Vita Novus, Kijiji. Yes, he is saying that his Illegal Rehab Center’s are being certified by CARF in he add. Really John??? So Everyone, make sure to call CARF and let them know about John Haines and his Adds making Claims of being Certified by them!

    As someone said before, the first thing CARF will tell you Mr. BidLaw, is to get Zoned Properly with All your Current Illegal Operations, To pay your bills there Joe, P Eye. You are a Joke Man!

    http://www.armourtownship.ca/pdf/december11_2012.pdf

    Minutes from December 11/2012 – I see Gail Smith from Newmarket, John’s buddy and PR Lady was present at the meeting. When you Knowingly work for a Crook…, A Scam Artist, well Gail, you go Go Girl!!!

    APPLICATIONS:
    - Application for Official Plan Amendment, 2293398 Ont. Inc. Pickerel Lake Treatment Centre was deemed incomplete and the Municipal Planner and council have requested further clarification on the lands subject to the application.

    - Application for Zoning By-law Amendment, 2293398 Ont. Inc. Pickerel Lake Treatment Centre was deemed incomplete and the Municipal Planner and council have requested further clarification on the lands subject to the application.

    - Robert Miller’s Comments were reviewed by council and a copy will be provided to Mr. Wayne Simpson, Planner for 2293398 Ont. Inc.

    - Reeve MacPhail explained that the planning process is completely separate from the current litigation regarding the applications submitted and that because of this, only matters relating to the submission of applications would be discussed in open council.

    • admin says:

      Looks like this issue is finally closed….haven’t heard anything from Muskoka in quite some time. I also haven’t heard anything negative from any of the clients presently attending the center.

  33. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Admin,

    Nothing has changed! John Haines is still being taken to Court for the Illegal Operation of Pickerel Lake Recover Center which changed to Muskoka Recovery Center which John Haines now is advertising as Vita Novus. He is stalling going to Court according to the Town of Armour. But don’t worry John, the Town and Local Residents are going to Give You Your Day in Court!

    Be advised, HE STILL HAS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER TO SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN. WHICH HE IS IGNORING!

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/

    http://muskoka.kijiji.ca/c-services-other-Vita-Novus-W0QQAdIdZ438220434

    Phone: (780) 429-2538
    Toll-free: (877) 434-5444 voice 
    Fax: (780) 426-7274

    I spoke with CARF this week. Vita Novus/Addiction Canada Treatment Network or any of John Haines Illegal Rehab Operations are Not Registered or Accredited by them as John Haines Claims. Call the above number and speak with Judy or June. Also notice the “great review” John Haines gave himself at: http://www.weblocal.ca/user/2vntzkc – Does anyone notice that “Flexman” is the Author of both http://www.weblocal.ca/user/2vntzkc and https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/ – I know, must be a coincidence, right John??? Wow, saying you are LICENSED BY CARF WHEN YOU ARE NOT? I’m surprised that you would tell a lie John, Shocking!

    Also, please go to: https://www.prbuzz.com/health-a-fitness/89023-vita-novus-treatment-center.html

    Notice the Vita Novus Review link on this and many other adds by john haines. When you click the “Reviews” it just goes back to their website. Funny thing is when you Google Vita Novus Complaints, well, there is a lot out there.

    (Just a Sample)
    https://www.google.ca/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=vita+novus+recovery+center+complaints&oq=vita+novus+recovery+center+complaints&gs_l=serp.12…0.0.2.22152.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.ing6eNNL1qo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=ad58aa7848033ec4&biw=1270&bih=641

    Again, this man is still running his Scams. He is Operating Illegally in Aurora and Newmarket also. They have been contacted. Did you get a Cease and Desist from them yet John???

    Hey how is the CARF stuff going??? The answer, IT’S NOT GOING. THIS IS CALLED FALSE ADVERTISING JOHN!

    SO AGAIN ADMIN, NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!

  34. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Admin,

    Nothing has changed! John has stalling going to Court Twice Now, according to the Town of Armour. But don’t worry John, the Local Residents are going to Give You Your Day in Court!

    HE STILL HAS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER TO SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN IMMEDIATELY. WHICH HE IS IGNORING!

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/
    http://muskoka.kijiji.ca/c-services-other-Vita-Novus-W0QQAdIdZ438220434

    Phone: (780) 429-2538
    Toll-free: (877) 434-5444 voice 
    Fax: (780) 426-7274

    I spoke with CARF this week. Vita Novus/Addiction Canada Treatment Network or any of John Haines Illegal Rehab Operations are Not Registered or Accredited by them as John Haines Claims. Call the above number and speak with June. Also notice the “great review” John Haines gave himself at: http://www.weblocal.ca/user/2vntzkc – Does anyone notice that “Flexman” is the Author of both http://www.weblocal.ca/user/2vntzkc and http://www.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/residential-treatment-centres/Ontario-residential-treatment-centres/Vita-Novus-Recovery-Center-L485/ – I know, must be a coincidence, right John???

    Also, please go to: https://www.prbuzz.com/health-a-fitness/89023-vita-novus-treatment-center.html

    Notice the Vita Novus Review link on this and many other adds by john haines. When you click the “Reviews” it just goes back to their website. Funny thing is when you Google Vita Novus Complaints, well, there is a lot out there.

    https://www.google.ca/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=vita+novus+recovery+center+complaints&oq=vita+novus+recovery+center+complaints&gs_l=serp.12…0.0.2.22152.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.ing6eNNL1qo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=ad58aa7848033ec4&biw=1270&bih=641

    Again, this man is still running his Scams. He is Operating Illegally in Aurora and Newmarket also. They have been contacted. Did you get a Cease and Desist from them yet John???

    Hey how is the CARF stuff going??? The answer, IT’S NOT GOING!!!

    SO AGAIN ADMIN, NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!

  35. MuskokaFine says:

    *********MUCH HAS CHANGED***********

    The Regular meeting of the ARMOUR TOWNSHIP on Tuesday January 8, 2013 was very informative!!
    All Towns people and residents were in attendance.
    http://www.armourtownship.ca/pdf/jan8_2013.pdf
    BUSINESS ARISING FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING:

    - The application for Official Plan Amendment, 2293398 Ont. Inc. Pickerel Lake Treatment Centre, Pt. of Lots 29 & 30, Conc. 10 was ACCEPTED by resolution and the municipal planner was instructed to prepare a draft amendment.
    RESOLUTIONS:
    - Moved by Jerry Brandt, Seconded by Rod Blakelock, Whereas the Township of Armour received an application for an Official Plan amendment submitted on November 21, 2012 by Wayne Simpson and Associates on behalf of Pickerel Lake Recovery Centre, 2159 Pickerel and Jack Lake Road;
    - And Whereas on December 21, 2012 the Township of Armour received a sketch to provide clarification of the lands owned by 2293398 Ontario Inc. which are subject to the application for an official plan amendment;
    - Now Therefore the Council of the Township of Armour hereby deem this application to be complete, and request the municipal planner, Robert Miller prepare the required documents for circulation to the Ministry of Municipal Affairs in draft, in advance of a notice of public meeting. Carried

    The Regular meeting of the ARMOUR TOWNSHIP on Tuesday January 22, 2013 was very informative!!
    All Towns people and residents were in attendance.
    http://www.armourtownship.ca/pdf/jan22_2013.pdf
    BUSINESS ARISING FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING:

    - Application for a zoning amendment, Pickerel Lake Recovery Centre, Prt Lot 29 and 30, Concession 10, was accepted by resolution.

    RESOLUTIONS:
    - Moved by Marty Corcoran, Seconded by Jerry Brandt, Whereas the
    Township of Armour received an application for a Zoning By-law
    Amendment on November 19, 2012 by Wayne Simpson and Associates
    on behalf of Pickerel Lake Recovery Centre, 2159 Pickerel and Jack Lake
    Road;

    And Whereas on December 21, 2012 the Township of Armour received a
    sketch to provide clarification of the lands owned by 2293398 Ontario Inc.
    which are subject to the application for a zoning by-law amendment;

    Now Therefore the Council of the Township of Armour hereby deem this
    application complete, and request the municipal planner, Robert Miller
    prepare the required documents. Carried

    The proper legal process is underway, not any stalling as it was alleged

    And it seems the cottagers association will be taking a NIMBY stance to try and oppose the center but instead of COURT they will have to take it to the OMB (Ontario municipal board) to try to oppose

    OK now onto NEWMARKET Location of VITA NOVUS which is actually in East Gwillumbury not NEWMARKET

    ZONED PROPERLY AND OPERATING LEGALLY !!!!

    For confirmation on the above please contact:
    Doug Strong – By-Law & Provincial Officer
    905-478-4282 Ext. 1277 dstrong@eastgwillimbury.ca
    Derek Hill- By-law and Licensing
    905-478-4282 Ext. 1247 dhill@eastgwillimbury.ca

    AURORA – ZONED AS IT SHOULD BE FOR HEAD OFFICE AND OUTREACH COUNSELLING CENTER!!!
    ALL CENTERS ARE OPERATING LEGALLY!!!!!

    SEXUAL ASSAULT
    THE ALLEGED “SEXUAL ASSAULT” WAS A POSTED ONLINE NASTY RUMOUR STARTED BY A DISGRUNTLED EX-EMPLOYEE WHICH WHEN READ BY LOCAL AREA RESIDENTS THAT OPPOSE PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY CENTER THEY CONTACTED LOCAL POLICE AND SUBSIQUENTLY WAS THEREFORE INVESTIGATED BY THE BURK’S FALLS OPP, CURRENT AND PAST EMPLOYEES WERE CONTACTED AND EVEN THE AFFORMENTIONED NURSE RALPH AND NO SEXUAL ASSAULT WAS EVER FOUND TO HAVE BEEN COMMITTED AND NO VICTIM WAS EVER FOUND TO EXIST OR CAME FORWARD.
    CONTACT
    OPP constable Lynn Danis badge # 12180
    Burk’s Falls OPP detachment 705-382-2015

    NOW

    CARF CANADA

    ADMIN mentioned that there is an ACCREDITATION process that takes up to 1 year and VITA NOVUS/Pickerel Lake Recovery Center is in the middle of that process (After a service provider commits to accreditation, the accreditation process begins with a thorough self-evaluation that applies the relevant CARF standards against the organization’s practices. Once the organization is in conformance to the standards, a request for a CARF survey is submitted at least three full months in advance of the desired date for an on-site survey. By the date of the survey, the provider should be in conformance with the standards for at least six months.) We are in the midst of our survey team being chosen and date of site surveys(yes more than one location) are very shortly.

    Please contact

    Dawn at CARF CANADA not Jen
    Phone: (780) 429-2538
    Toll-free: (877) 434-5444

    Maybe posters gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn, Muskokakarma and vitanovusreviews can keep busy copy and pasting (30 times at once on complaintsboard and reviewtalk) ……maybe they can copy and paste the truth now…….. probably not.

    We will post again in time with more updates.

  36. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    The Truth? As you wish John, otherwise Known as Flexman or great healer…, and many other names!

    Admin, I will ask only one or two questions per postings so that John Haines has an opportunity to TELL THE TRUTH! I will address One by One John’s answers….,

    John, Can you explain why you have been FALSELY ADVERTISING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ACCREDITED BY CARF?? https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/ (????)

    The above posting with NAATP has been there for how long Flexman, a Few Years?

    How many people have you SCAMMED INTO COMING TO YOUR ILLEGAL REHAB CENTERS WITH THIS PARTICULAR FALSE ADD, WITH THIS LIE BY USING THE GOOD NAME OF CARF ILLEGALLY??

    DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE MONEY BACK TO PEOPLE WHO CAME TO YOUR ILLEGAL REHAB CENTER’S BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED YOUR LIE ABOUT CARF???

    That’s it for now…., Time for your answer great healer???

  37. muskokakarma says:

    Remember who you are dealing with; man who has made his money from telling lies, someone who has been Scamming Addicts for years!!! I guess you would call them “EASY PREY” eh John?

    These CARF LIES ABOUT ACCREDITATION is just One Example of WHO JOHN HAINES IS! HOW MANY OTHER LIES ARE YOU TELLING ABOUT YOUR ILLEGAL REHAB CENTER’S JOHN? OH, PLEASE DON’T WORRY, EVERYTHING WILL COME OUT, ALL YOUR LIES THAT IS!

    I MEAN, WHY STOP AT JUST A COUPLE OF LIES? WELL, YOU HAVEN’T STOPPED AT “JUST A COUPLE OF LIES” HAVE YOU JOHN?

    SO WHILE YOU ARE THINKING UP SOME “BULLSHIT” ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ASKED ABOVE, I TOO WILL ASK ‘THE’ QUESTION, WHY ARE YOU ADVERTISING THAT YOU ARE CARF ACCREDITED WHEN YOU ARE NOT JOHN? SIMPLE QUESTION( ?), PLEASE ANSWER.

    (( NOW, ACCORDING TO JOHN HAINES, ADDICTION CANADA TREATMENT NETWORK, LIKE VITA NOVUS, IS ALSO CARF ACCREDITED )) NOT!!!

    SEE THE LINK BELOW!))

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/addiction-canada-treatment-network-2/

  38. muskokakarma says:

    Admin, I understand that CARF has had the link to the ILLEGAL FALSE ADVERTISING BY JOHN HAINES ABOUT VITA NOVUS ACCREDITED REMOVED.

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/

    But, they don’t know yet that he is also FALSELY ADVERTISING THAT ^^^ ADDICTION CANADA TREATMENT NETWORK^^^ IS CARF ACCREDITED.

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/addiction-canada-treatment-network-2/

    Anyone need the above information for “LAW SUITS” AGAINST JOHN HAINES, PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO COPY THE ADD BEFORE CARF MAKES THIS ONE GO AWAY TOO!

    HOW MANY LIES ARE YOU TELLING ABOUT YOUR ILLEGAL REHAB CENTER’S JOHN?

  39. pickerellake says:

    Our Family has had property on Pickerel Lake for 50 years. This is the first time we have had to address an issue like this. We had a meeting lastnight to dicsus John Haine/Vita Novus/Pickerel Lake Recovery.

    We were also givin information from an individual who has ongoing issues with John Haines. What we can’t understand is why is this man continuing to tell lies, constantly.

    Yes, CARF is importat. If you are accredited with them, that will make things eariser for you when dealing with our group at Pickerel Lake Road. Our issue is this man continues to lie, and when you address his lies, he threatens to Sue you!

    Run your Operations Legally, Act Professionally. From what we have seen and heard so far, John Haines cannot be trusted! That is why we will be opposing any zoning ammendments.

    This man comes into our Town and Starts a Rehab Center. When told to stop through a Cease and Desist Order, he ignores it and continues to operate. Yes, we are concerned about the Sexual Assault and the Use of a Fire Place Deemed Unfit, the Dispensing of Medication at the property, etc…,

    Why are you lying about being Accredited with CARF when you are not. This does not do anything to build trust within our Community John!

    http://www.weblocal.ca/vita-novus-aurora-on.html

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/addiction-canada-treatment-network-2/

  40. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Admin,

    Please see: The False Add that John Haines had, stating that his ILLEGAL REHAB CENTERS ARE CARF ACCREDITED, WELL, THEY ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE???

    John can you explain to us what happened??? Let me tell you what happened, great healer, CARF FOUND OUT ABOUT YOUR ILLEGAL USE OF THEIR NAME IN YOUR FALSE ADD. YOU WERE DIRECTED TO REMOVE THEIR NAME FROM YOUR ADD IMMEDIATELY!!!

    ADMIN,

    As I said, I will only ask one or two questions per posting so John Haines can, TELL THE TRUTH! Oh, I’m not done yet John. I too, want to make sure the Truth is Known about you Flexman!

    ( false advertising about carf accreditation)
    Vita novus – http://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/

    ( false advertising about carf accreditation)
    Addiction canada treatment network

    I know, magic, the add has changed. No more CARF Accreditation???

  41. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Yes, Addiction Canada is not CARF Accredited Anymore either!

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/addiction-canada-treatment-network-2/

  42. muskokakarma says:

    I understand that there a many people out there who attended John Haines Illegal Rehab Centers because they were told by him that his Illegal Centers were CARF Accredited. As we all Seen, He also put False Adds out to the Affect.

    Admin, as we all found out in the last few week, they are NOT CARF Accredited. In fact, CARF’s Legal Department sent notice to John Haines to REMOVE THE FALSE ADDs!

    In Canada that is called FRAUD! If you were taken in by this guys Fraud/False Add about CARF, you need to speak with a Lawyer, call the Police to lay Fraud Charges and Contact CARF’s Head Office/Legal Department in Arizona, Yes the Real CARF people greathealer.

    I will be posting more information…., I did say earlier, all the Truth is going to Come Out about John Haines Illegal Operations. John, I’m Just Getting Started with You! We will deal with your Issues, One by One…,

    Hey John, Otherwise Known as: Flexman, Bronson etc…., http://www.weblocal.ca/vita-novus-aurora-on.html

    Flexman
    March 11, 2011
    Excellent Treatment Center
    I was so addicted and lost and Vita Novus helped me recover and get a life.

    YOU ARE A LOSER JOHN! SAD YOU HAVE TO WRITE YOUR OWN REVIEWS. DID YOU GET A LIFE YET FLEXMAN? YES, A LIFE OF RIPPING OFF ADDICTS. DON’T WORRY, I’M GOING TO HELP YOU RECOVER FROM A LIFE TIME OF DECEIT, A LIFE FULL OF LIES.

    THINK OF ME AS A PART OF YOUR THERAPY PROGRAM. AND I WON’T CHARGE YOU THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. IN YOUR CASE JOHN, I RECOMMEND A LITTLE TIME BEHIND BARS!!!

    More to Come…,

  43. muskokakarma says:

    Hey John,

    Explain what this means, registered with CARF Canada/Certified?? And how did NAATP Certify you??? Again, if you attended John Haines Illegal Rehab Centers, call a Lawyer and then Police to Lay Fraud Charges and then CARF’s Legal Office.

    http://www.addictioncanada.ca/

    • We are fully certified by the NAATP as well registered with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the
    hands of CERTIFIED treatment professionals.

  44. muskokakarma says:

    Admin,

    Just want to keep You and Everyone Else in the Loop. Spoke with CARF, they have been notified about ANOTHER ONE OF John Haines FALSE ADD’S/FRAUD about Addiction Canada being Certified by (CARF) them .

    You know, where he says;

    • We are fully certified by the NAATP as well registered with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of CERTIFIED treatment professionals.

    http://www.addictioncanada.ca/

    Once again, What other lies are you telling about you Illegal Rehab Center’s John???

    • admin says:

      My understandng of NAATP is that it is a voluntary association of treatment providers and membership consists of providing the details of your facility and paying a fee. Unless it has changed recently I do not think NAATP has a “certification” process. You may want to verify this as this might be something new.

  45. muskokakarma says:

    Admin,

    You are correct, YOU PUT YOUR OWN INFORMATION IN THEIR ON LINE DIRECTORY. AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN PUT ANYTHING YOU WANT. AS WE SEEN LAST WEEK, JOHN HAINES REMOVED THE FALSE ADD HE HAD WITH NAATP SAYING HE WAS CARF ACCREDITED.

    NAATP DID NOT MAKE HIM HIM DO THIS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE FALSE ADD AT THE TIME, UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION. CARF DID! I WAS TOLD BY NAATP THAT CLIENTS MAKE THE CHANGES TO THEIR OWN ON LINE DIRECTORY.

    I SPOKE WITH NAATP, (WITH SHERRY) GUESS WHAT, SHE SAID, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY NEED TO ‘START’ TO BETTER CHECK THE CREDENTIALS OF THEIR CLIENTS ADDS, THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WILL BE ADDRESSING. BY THE WAY, THAT’S A QUOTE FROM NAATP JOHN!

    I EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT CONMEN LIKE JOHN HAINES WILL AND DO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ORGANIZATION LIKE THEIRS, SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO COMMIT (REHAB) FRAUD. THEY’VE GOT YOUR NUMBER HAINES!!!!

    MORE TO COME ON THIS…,

  46. muskokakarma says:

    Admin,

    Notice any CHANGES TO JOHN HAINES FALSE ADDS???? THE ANSWER IS YES…………, YES,……………, YES………..,

    http://www.addictioncanada.ca/
    THE OLD ADD/FRAUD BY JOHN HAINES
    • We are fully certified by the NAATP as well registered with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of CERTIFIED treatment professionals

    THE NEW ADD……..,
    We are registered with the NAATP as well our organization is becoming fully accredited with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of FULLY LICENSED & CERTIFIED treatment professionals.

    HOLY SHIT DUDE, YOU SURE ARE TELLING A LOT OF LIES FOR A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN!!! JUST TO CLEAR, YOU DID SAY YOU WERE A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN? IF YOU FORGOT, DON’T WORRY I CAN FIND THE BLOG WHERE YOU SAID IT FOR YOU. LET ME KNOW…,

    OH, YEAH JOHN, DIDN’T NAATP TELL YOU TO GET RID OF THEIR LOGO THAT YOU ARE USING WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION??? http://www.addictioncanada.ca/ OH, MAYBE YOU GOT PERMISSION NOW??? I KNOW THEY WEREN’T VERY HAPPY ABOUT YOUR FALSE ADD!!!

    NAAPT WAS ALSO TOLD, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU SAY YOUR ILLEGAL REHAB CENTER’S ARE LICENSED, (HOLY SHIT DUDE, ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER!!!) WELL, WE ALL KNOW THERE IS NO LICENSING PROCESS IN ONTARIO TO OPERATE A REHAB CENTER. THIS IS WHY SHIT HEADS LIKE YOU ARE ABLE TO GET AWAY RIPPING OFF/STEALING MONEY FROM ADDICTIONS LOOKING FOR HELP!

    I HOPE YOU SHOWED NAATP YOUR LICENSE. IF YOU DID, IT’S FAKE BECAUSE YOU DON’T HAVE A LICENSE!!! I SEE YOU STILL HAVE FALSE INFORMATION HERE: https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/ AND
    https://www.naatp.org/facility/addiction-canada-treatment-network-2/
    ABOUT BEING LICENSED!

    MORE TO COME….,

  47. muskokakarma says:

    Admin,

    I spoke with Michael E. Walsh – President/C.E.O. of NAATP. He’s really A Nice Guy! HE UNDERSTANDS THAT ALTHOUGH MOST OF THEIR CLIENTS ARE HONEST…., WELL, AFTER THE INTRODUCTION TO YOU JOHN HAINES, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE THE ODD ONE WHO IS AN DISHONEST ASSHOLE, MAYBE EVEN A OURRIGHT LIAR…, SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT CLIENT PROFILES, ETC…,

    I did inform him about the fact that Ontario DOES NOT HAVE A LICENCING PROCESS FOR REHAB CENTER’S AND THAT CONMEN LIKE JOHN HAINES TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THIS!!!

    JOHN, FLEXMAN, JASON BOURNE, BRONSON, WALK THE WALK, REHAB RIPP OFF ARTIST, ( NOT SURE WHAT NAME YOU ARE GOING UNDER THESE DAYS greathealer) http://www.weblocal.ca/vita-novus-aurora-on.html

    I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A COPY OF YOUR SO CALLED “LICENCE.”THEY KNOW IF THEY GET COPY FROM YOU….,THAT IT’S F-A-K-E!!!

    HERE IS A FEW ILLEGAL REHAB CENTER’S IN OPERATION IN ONTARIO, CANADA BY JOHN HAINES. GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANYMORE LIES ON HIS WEBSITES. ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A BET?

    http://www.vitanovus.ca/

    http://www.addictioncanada.ca/

    http://www.pickerellakerecovery.com/

    http://www.muskokarecovery.com/

    http://www.howitworksrecovery.ca/

    MORE TO COME….,

  48. muskokakarma says:

    Admin,

    I just got off the phone with NAATP national president Michael Walsh. I told him about Gail Smiths/John Haines PR Lady post on http://www.weblocal.ca/vita-novus-aurora-on.html – He was unaware of this post.

    Admin,

    There is a lot to say about his particular post, but I will do so in a little while. Ha, Ha…, Hey Gail, why aren’t you posting here anymore??? Oh, is it because you and your loser boss John Haines have got caught telling TOO MANY LIES HERE ON THIS BOARD, IS THAT IT???? SO SAD!!!

    JUST GETTING STARTED JOHNNY! MORE TO COME….,

    GS
    February 18, 2013
    Naatp
    We spoke to NAATP national president Michael Walsh who in turn had a rather lengthy discussion with Mr John Haines to discuss the slanderous allegations by a Muskoka Karma ……well it turns out both John and Michael are RECOVERED ADDICTS and have a lengthy background in dealing with moralistic and ignorant people who fail to understand the hard works of those who treat the sick suffering from addiction and the associations they work for.
    Vita Novus is registered with NAATP and is going to be working with Michael Walsh in covering more associated centres here in Canada.
    The Vita Novus organization is looking in 2013 to bring a national organization together for provincial licensing of treatment centres, where now the only licensing or certification is done by associated governing bodies such as the CACCF (Canadian Addiction Counsellors Certification Federation) ICADC (certification internationally by the International Certification & Reciprocity Consortium/Alcohol & Other Drug Abuse) CCPA-ACCP (Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association) – you can check out how all our counselors and therapists have recieved their credentials and the requirements at certain levels at http://www.caccf.ca/a_certification.html and http://www.ccpa-accp.ca/en/memberbenefits/ce... and
    And for our Doctors and Nurses the College of Physicians and Surgeons and the college of Nurses.
    Please call us at 1-866-220-6151 for all inquires.

  49. muskokakarma says:

    Admin,

    If anyone needs a little laugh today, you should head over to: http://www.weblocal.ca/reviews-1263689-ontario-ltd-mr-rehab-aurora-on.html

    At first I though this Post was a Joke, but then I realized how DESPERATE REHAB CLOWN JOHN HAINES IS….., PLEASE ENJOY AND ALLOW YOURSELF A LAUGH OR TOO!

    VN-PR
    February 23, 2013
    John Haines = Mr Rehab
    The new spokesman for the Nations Plight and Fight for Drug and alcohol addiction is John Haines or as so many refer to him as “Mr Rehab”.

    John Haines often slandered and defamed online for his past and judged as such by many now speaks out as one of the foremost and powerful speakers regarding the stigmatism of those labelled “Addicts”
    Hear this powerful message live!!See Mr Rehab at a speaking engagement across Canada in a city close to you.

    I like this response:

    Seriously John, Doing a Canadian Tour speaking about WHAT??? How to Rip Addicts Off/Steal Drugs from them, How to Cover Up a Sexual Assault, Go Shove Some More COKE UP YOUR NOSE!!!!

    I also understand he posted under Ms. J. This post is even funnier John. Wow, your are getting more Desperate as Time go On Rehab Clown. Why aren’t you posting on this site anymore??? We need some (Rehab) Comic Relief. Come on, be a pal Mr. Rehab. Ha, Ha, Ha…………., Much more to Come……..,

  50. SmokeOxy80s says:

    such a shame that John Haines is still operating illegally. I have not seen documentation for the **alleged rape** at muskoka recovery. Also the unfit fireplace use, with the risk of burning the place down. Also dispensing medication when not allowed. And female counsellors sleeping with male clients. And female clients sleeping with male counsellors. There was all kinds of sex acts going on allegedly. Fornication throughout the place.

    I hope an end comes to this

    • songbird says:

      SmokeOxy80s:

      Who were the counsellors involved.
      I thought it was a male nurse that was the ONLY one that was linked to any kind of sexual misconduct.
      If what you say is true, this needs immediate attention.
      Clients and families at these facilities put their trust into the management and counselling teams.
      It is HORRENDOUS that this could possibly be happening ….please provide more information.

  51. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    http://www.manta.com/ic/mxjkj13/ca/vita-novus

    John, I see you are still telling lies about CARF. You are a Member??? Great, then you can TELL US ALL How’s the CARF stuff going RIGHT???

    I see you are posting under Gerry now at: http://www.weblocal.ca/reviews-1263689-ontario-ltd-mr-rehab-aurora-on.html – I see that you are still threatening people who YOU RIPPED OFF with IP Address, Lawsuits……, THIS IS SO SAD JOHN. DO YOU HAVE ONE ACTUAL TESTIMONIAL THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US greathealer, I mean, Mr. Rehab???

    Hey Rehab Clown, where is YOUR NEXT REHAB LECTURE? I know a lot of people who like to attended. VERY SAD INDEED!

  52. PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY CEASE AND DESIST ORDER says:

    NO SURPRISE, JOHN HAINES STILL TELLING LIES ABOUT HIS ILLEGAL REHAB CENTERS! http://www.weblocal.ca/vita-novus-toronto-on.html

    YES, JOHN, THERE STILL IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER IN PLACE. YOU KNOW, THE SAME ONE THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER A YEAR.

    JOHN HAS DECIDED NOT TO WRITE ANY MORE LIES ON THIS SITE. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HE IS NOT FOOLING ANYONE AND THAT PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING AT HIM, AND ALL THE F-A-K-E- “TESTIMONIALS” THAT HE WRITES. RIGHT TAM TAM! OR MAYBE HE DOESN’T?

    http://www.weblocal.ca/vita-novus-toronto-on.html

    REPOST FROM THE ABOVE SITE.

    Not Recommended!
    THERE IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER A YEAR. JOHN HAINES HAS BEEN IGNORING THIS ORDER FROM ARMOURTOWNSHIP!

    http://www.armourtownship.ca/pdf/december11_2012.pdf – READ CAREFULLY JOHN!

    APPLICATIONS:

    ” Reeve MacPhail explained that the planning process is completely separate from the current litigation regarding the applications submitted and that because of this, only matters relating to the submission of applications would be discussed in open council.” SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME!

    HERE YOU GO: http://www.cottagecountrynow.ca/news/article/1299576–pickerel-lake-recovery-vista-novus-muskoka-rehab-scam-by-john-haines

    Do You See where it says: “The Pickerel Lake Treatment Centre is operational despite a letter sent late last year from council telling it to Cease and Desist with any treatment.” SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME!

    JOHN, IT’S OK, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT IT’S HARD FOR YOU TO BREAK A BAD HABIT LIKE, BEING A CONMAN, SCAM ARTIST, LIAR!

  53. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    http://www.weblocal.ca/reviews-1263689-ontario-ltd-mr-rehab-aurora-on.html

    I know, all the Reviews John Haines posted on the above website, as well as the Negative Posting from Former Clients are Gone! What happened John?

    What happened was this, Conman John Haines complained to Weblocal, threatening them with a lawsuits, lawyers, etc…, Everyone here knows by now how John goes Crying to the Websites once people start to write the TRUTH about their experience with John Haines and his ILLEGAL REHAB CENTERS.

    This is what happened with the above site. Once people start to POST THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS LOW LIFE COKE HEAD, HE THREATENS THE WEB SITE OWNERS WITH A LAWSUIT.

    I believe you know what I am talking about Admin. He does this to Everyone. John, where are you? We miss you and your Lies.

    You are a SAD, PATHETIC MAN!

  54. muskokakarma says:

    http://www.armourtownship.ca/pdf/plrc_openhse_april13_2013.pdf

    NOTICE OF OPEN HOUSE PUBLIC MEETING:
    TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE ARMOUR TOWNSHIP OFFICIAL PLAN TO RECOGNIZE THE PICKEREL LAKE ADDICTION RECOVERY CENTRE

    OPEN HOUSE
    Date: Saturday April 13, 2013
    Location: Karl Crozier Community Hall
    220 Centre Street, Burk’s Falls
    Time: 10:00 am Presentations followed by open house until 12 noon

    THE PROCESS

    Armour Council has not yet made a decision on the proposed Official Plan Amendment.People attending the Open House will be invited to comment on the proposal.

    After considering the comments received from the public at this open house and the Statutory public meeting, Council will make a decision whether or not to adopt the proposed Official Plan Amendment.

    This should be interesting….,

  55. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    Hey, Rehab Clown, you shouldn’t be telling lies about your ILLEGAL REHAB OPERATIONS.

    http://markets.ibtimes.com/ibtimes/news/read/22129150/muskoka_recovery_center

    There were many posts found online about local township taking the center to court for operating illegally but that was even stretched and demeaned and by the time some sick individual posted it online it was that it was as criminal as Fraud and Theft when in fact going through the court process the center has had the “Cease and Desist” order set aside and zoning being properly dealt with and become in compliance as of the date of this post.

    So, zoning is complete and dealt with??? I don’t think so Rehab Clown!!! I have heard you have problems telling the Truth………., Appears to be True!!! gettingcaughtinyourownlies again Clown???

    http://www.cottagecountrynow.ca/news/article/1606819–pickerel-lake-zoning-could-see-compromise

    How is the CARF Stuff going Clown???

  56. SmokeOxy80s says:

    John over a year ago you were posting about the tremendously great progress you were making towards CARF certification. You said it was a lengthy process and it took take a year to get. It has now been a year and I am calling you out. Where is it???? Two year process now johnny boy? Still on my couch a year later too and not in court. What happened?

  57. muskokarecovery says:

    What happened is this. NOTHING. I’m waiting too! You see, in Canada it’s NOT SLANDER WHEN YOU TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT SOMEONE. Right John. And guess what, EVERYTHING ON THE BLOGS IS TRUE! That’s why this Loser can’t do anything! Right Mr. Bidlaw.

    Don’t forget, read the above posting on this site and see where Scum BaG is caught lying about his CERTIFICATION WITH CARF and NAATP. YEAH, DON’T FORGET, THEY MADE HIM REMOVE IT!

    I don’t know, why would someone tell such a BIG Life about CARF? Telling people his was fully Certified by them? I think there a simple answer, everybody say it together, because that’s all this guy knows how to do besides shoving COKE UP HIS NOSE, is to, TELL LIES, RIGHT JOHN?

    JOHN, YOU ARE A LOSER, COKE USER, SCUM!

  58. muskokarecovery says:

    NOTICE OF STATUTORY PUBLIC MEETING FOR SATURDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2013 TOWNSHIP OF ARMOUR CONCERNING PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY. VITA NOVUS

    October 5, 2013 is the Statutory Public Meeting to Decide if Doors of Pickerel Lake Recovery/Vita Novus stays open. So yes, he is lying when he says that he is Licenced.

    I don’t get it John? Stop Telling Lies John. Makes you look stupid and more importantly, makes you look like a Conman!

    NOTICE OF STATUTORY PUBLIC MEETING FOR SATURDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2013
    TOWNSHIP OF ARMOUR CONCERNING A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE OFFICIAL PLAN TO RECOGNIZE THE PICKEREL LAKE ADDICTION RECOVERY CENTRE

    TAKE NOTICE That the Council of the Township of Armour will hold a statutory Public Meeting on October 5, 2013 at 10:00 a.m. in the Karl Crozier Community Hall, upstairs at the Arena in Burk’s Falls to consider a proposed Amendment to the Official Plan under subsection 17(15) of the Planning Act. Please note that an
    application has also been received for a related Zoning By law Amendment File No. ZBA 02/13 under Section 34 of the Planning Act to amend By-law No. 27-95 as amended, the Armour Township Zoning By law.

    The purpose of the application to amend the Official Plan is to define and permit an addiction recovery centre on the site of the former Pickerel Lake Lodge located partly within the Waterfront Community and partly within the Rural Community designations of the Armour Township Official Plan.

    The proposed Zoning By-law Amendment will implement the proposed Official Plan Amendment by defining and adding an addiction recovery centre to the permitted uses in the Recreational Commercial Exception 61 (RC-61) Zone which covers the developed commercial area of the former lodge.

    ANY PERSON MAY ATTEND this Public Meeting and/or make written or verbal presentations either in support of, or in opposition to the subject application.
    IF A PERSON OR PUBLIC BODY does not make oral submissions at a statutory Public Meeting or make written submissions to the Township of Armour before the subject amendment is passed, the person or public body is not entitled to appeal the decisions of Armour Township Council to the Ontario Municipal Board and
    may not be added as a party to the hearing of an appeal before the Ontario Municipal Board unless, in the opinion of the Board, there are reasonable grounds to do so.

    IF YOU WISH TO BE NOTIFIED of the adoption of the proposed official plan amendment, or of the refusal of a request to amend the official plan, you must make a written request to the Clerk-Administrator at the address below.

    IF YOU WISH TO EXPRESS your views with respect to this application, please forward your comments in writing to the Clerk-Administrator at the address below. The personal information accompanying your submission will become part of the public record. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION relating to the proposed Official Plan Amendment is available for inspection during regular office hours at the Municipal Office.

    Dated at the Township of Armour this 5th day of September, 2013.

    Mrs. Wendy Whitwell
    Clerk-Administrator, Township of Armour
    56 Ontario Street, Box 533, Burk’s Falls ON
    P0A 1C0

  59. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    http://www.reviewstalk.com/complaints-reviews/illegal-rehab-operation-vita-novus-addiction-canada-treatment-network-john-haines-l32821/page/4

    The Vita Novus Group – Nov 2, 2013
    John Haines says:

    “NOT TO MENTION OUR 3 OTHER FACILITIES ARE ALL LICENSED AND ZONED APPROPRIATELY (( and soon PICKEREL will be ALSO)).

    Just a reminder who you are dealing with Everyone. First he is All Licenced, and Zoned. He said so on this and other internet sites. Now………, “soon PICKEREL will be ALSO.”

    Do you think you may have a PROBLEM WITH LYING JOHN. I mean, mr. rehab, or do you prefer greathealer. How’s you nephew great healer. See whart happens when you tell too many lies john…..,, “gettingcaughtinyourliesjohn”

    Get some help for you lying and cocaine problem. It’s showing. If you wife is reading this too, get him some help Linda. Everyone in the Rehab Community is lasughing at him! So sad John that you life consists of telling lies, and trying to SCAM ADDICTS!

    GET SOME HELP!

  60. gettingcaughtinyourownliesjohn says:

    It DOESN’T STOP with this Guy. More Lies by John Haines, not to talk about BREACHING CLIENT PRIVACY! Now we are hearing more about the ‘SELLING OF DRUGS” BY THE STAFF, ETC….,

    http://badmanners2159.blogspot.ca/2013/09/john-haines-vita-novushow-it-works.html

  61. muskokarecovery says:

    Just to be clear John, you get ADDICTS who UNFORTUNATELY CAME TO YOUR UNZONED, UNLICENSED REHAB CENTER, PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY to SIGN AFFIDAVITS FOR YOU?

    http://badmanners2159.blogspot.ca/2013/09/john-haines-vita-novushow-it-works.html

    “He tried to black mail me into giving him an affidavit in order to help one of his law suits. Clearly I refused and then the wrath of John Haines started all over again.”

    Get them when they are down and out, eh John? Get them while they are VULNERABLE, eh John? You’re a REAL CLASSY GUY. But Amanda told you where to go, didn’t she John? She wouldn’t SIGN YOUR AFFIDAVIT so you called her What, “NOTHING BUT PU*SY.” Yeah, real classy guy!

    Anyone else see the SIMILARITIES BETWEEN CRACK COCAINE SMOKING TORONTO MAYOR ROB FORD AND JOHN HAINES. You don’t have to LOOK TO HARD!

    JOHN, ANYMORE YOUTUBE VIDEO’S COMING? KEEP THEM COMING….,,
    Again, you are NOTHING BUT A LOW LIFE CONMAN, A SIMPLE SCAM ARTIST, AS SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE.

    Staff/ Employees SELLING DRUGS? I know, it’s all a lie, right John? ACTUALLY, NO , IT NOT! AND YOU TURNED A BLIND EYE TO THE WHOLE THING!

    LETTING PEOPLE SELL DRUGS AT PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY, VITA NOVUS, ONTARIO NORTH ADDICTIONS, MUSKOKA RECOVERY….

    HOLY SHIT, A LOT OF NAME CHANGES! MORE ON THIS BLOG ABOUT YOUR EMPLOYEES “POPPING PILLS WITH YOUR BLESSING.”

    I’M NOT SURPRISED. YOU WILL BE SHUT DOWN!!!

  62. muskokakarma says:

    Admin,

    Why do we keep on this Loser, John Haines……..,
    because as you can see………., more lies. We went through this already John.

    In case you forgot John, here it is……….,

    http://blog.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/2012/08/25/muskoka-recovery-center/
    muskokakarma says:
    February 13, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Admin,

    Notice any CHANGES TO JOHN HAINES FALSE ADDS???? THE ANSWER IS YES…………, YES,……………, YES………..,

    http://www.addictioncanada.ca/
    THE OLD ADD/FRAUD BY JOHN HAINES
    • We are fully certified by the NAATP as well registered with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of CERTIFIED treatment professionals

    THE NEW ADD……..,
    We are registered with the NAATP as well our organization is becoming fully accredited with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of FULLY LICENSED & CERTIFIED treatment professionals.

    NAATP DID NOT CERTIFY YOUR UNLICENSED, UNZONED REHAB CENTER’S.
    REGISTERED WITH CARF? LET’S WHAT NAATP AND CARF HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

    EVERYONE, Another name to add to your list. He is also using, ONTARIO NORTH ADDICTIONS.

    http://www.recoverynetwork.ca

    “We are fully certified by the NAATP as well registered with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of CERTIFIED treatment
    professionals.”

    Yeah, NO YOUR NOT. Hey John, do you think you have a PROBLEM WITH TELLING LIES??? The anser would be YES JOHN!

  63. muskokakarma says:

    So, I just spoke with Amy from NAATP. Guess what, THEY WEREN’T IMPRESSED JOHN. Oh, by the way, they also told me YOUR UNLICENSED REHAB CENTER, “RECOVERYNETWORK” ( http://www.recoverynetwork.ca ) IS NOT EVEN ‘REGISTERE’ WITH THEM, NEVER MIND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE LYING ABOUT BEING CERTIFED BY THEM. OH JOHN……….,

    THEY WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT THIS AGAIN!!!
    So, Why do we keep on this Loser, COCAINE JUNKIE, John Haines……..,
    because as you can see………., MORE LIES!

  64. liesbyconmanjohnhaines says:

    WELL DONE EVERYONE!!!!

    This is what happens when we BAND TOGETHER. Yeah, you should be worried John. You shouldn’t have PISSED OFF AMANDA. I guess you thought she was JUST ANOTHER “CLIENT” who you could abuse. Take her MONEY, AND EVERYONE’S ELSES. AND YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH THIS FOREVER.

    NO, NO, NO. You’ve PISSED OFF THE WRONG PEOPLE MR. Rehab. Ha, Ha, Ha!!!

    I guess enough people called NAATP. See the CHANGE. Now he is “REGISTERED” WITH THEM. NOT CERTIFIED BY NAATP like he’s BEEN TELLING EVERYONE.

    NOW IT’S TIME TO CALL CARF AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT “REGISTERED’ WITH CARF MEANS. CAN YOU TELL US JOHN???

    http://www.recoverynetwork.ca ( NEW ADD)

    We are a fully certified organization, (registered) with the NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of fully LICENSED and CERTIFIED treatment professionals.

    Remember, NON OF HIS BULLSHIT REHAB CENTER’S ARE LICENSED LIKE HE’S TRYING TO TELL EVERYONE. Why John, Oh yeah, THERE IS NO LICENSING PROCESS ((EXCEPT BY THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY))

    So John, Can you POST YOUR LICENSE(S) FOR YOU UNZONED, UNLICENSED REHAB CENTER’S ON YOUR WEBSITE SO THAT WE CAN ALL SEE???

    Yeah, the ANSWER IS NO, RIGHT JOHN. YOU’RE NOTHING BUT A COCAINE JUNKIE, LIAR. YOUR STAFF SELLS DRUGS, POPPING PILLS WHILE DOING INTERVENTIONS, SCREWING EVERYONE, YOU COVERED UP A SEXUAL ASSAULT…., OH YEAH, YOU CALLED AMANDA VERY NASTY NAMES.

    So guess what John, you thought IT WAS BAD BEFORE. WE ARE ALL EXPOSING YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE. Greathealer MY ASS. More like CON MAN, COCAINE JUNKIE, SCAMMER.

    YOU WILL BE SHUT DOWN!!!

  65. muskokarecovery says:

    Admin,

    http://badmanners2159.blogspot.ca/2013/09/john-haines-vita-novushow-it-works.html

    Instead of repeating it , I will just copy and paste. This is interesting…….,

    CARF NAATP – 24 November 2013 06:58

    Good Morning to All.

    Couple of things; CARF AND NAATP ARE BULLSHIT ORGANIZATIONS!

    Naapt doesn’t check what people put on their website. It was said before and it’s true, they just take your money and you put whatever you want. Some of you may remember, CARF did however make john Haines remove the LIE that he was ACCREDITED BY THEM, which he is NOT and that’s why they MADE HIM REMOVE THAT PARTICULAR LISTING.

    Where did John Post that…., well, he posted in on the NAAPT Website because he knows NAATP doesn’t check their client posting! I understand because of the John Haines situation, they may start, but the bottom line is both CARF AND NAAPT ARE BULLSHIT!

    If CARF is ok with John Haines saying that he is Registered and a Member of their BULLSHIT ORGANIZATION, then good for them and as someone on the above post said, this speaks volumes about the CREDIBILITY OF CARF!

    Now back to NAATP; they have let John Haines post that he is LICENSED. We all know THAT’S NOT TRUE, BUT HERE YOU GO, SEE FOR YOURSELF:

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/addiction-canada-treatment-network-2/

    See where he says he is LICENSED? Yeah John, YOU’RE NOT!

    https://www.naatp.org/facility/vita-novus-inc/

    and AGAIN……, See where he says he is LICENSED? Yeah John, YOU’RE NOT!

    The BOTTOM LINE is like many of you, I WILL KEEP EXPOSING THIS CONMAN FOR WHAT HE IS….., A SCAMMER, A RIPPOFF ARTIST, WHO COVERED UP A SEXUAL ASSAULT AMONG OTHER THINGS! GO JOHN HAINES…,. HEY I’M WAITING FOR MORE OF YOUR YOUTUBE VIDS BUDDY BOY. COME ON BE A BUDDY, POST SOME MORE…, YOU FUCKIN’ LOSER!!!

  66. muskokarecovery says:

    Admin,

    ANOTHER CHANGE BY JOHN HAINES. I GUESS CARF GOT ON HIS CASE. NOW IT TIME TO SPEAK WITH NAATP ABOUT THE FRAUD/FALSE ADD BY JOHN HAINES ON THEIR WEBSITE.

    CARF NAATP – 25 November 2013

    http://www.recoverynetwork.ca/

    ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR EVERYONE, WHO CALLED/EMAILED CARF. WELL DONE!!! ( just getting started John!)

    ANOTHER CHANGE TO RECOVERYNETWORK.CA
    ( The emails and calls to CARF obviously GOT THEIR ATTENTION regarding SCAMMER John Haines)

    Now John is Saying that he is NOT A MEMBER OR REGISTERED WITH CARF. Oh Yeah, HE NEVER WAS TO BEGIN WITH. NOW I GUESS HE REALIZES. TOO MANY LIES JOHN. GET OFF THE COCAINE FOR A WHILE!

    John Haines Says:

    We are a fully certified organization, registered with and members of NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as ** becoming fully accredited with CARF Canada** to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of fully LICENSED and CERTIFIED treatment professionals.

    BIG DIFFERENCE FROM:

    We are a fully certified organization, **registered with and members of NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as CARF Canada.**

    Would be easier to just tell the Truth John. You don’t know how to do that. So, we WILL ALL HELP YOU OUT!!! Yes, people are laughing at you. Three changes to recoverynetwork.ca regarding CARF AND NAATP in less then Three Days.

    NOW, PEOPLE NEED TO CALL NAATP AND TELL THEM THAT JOHN HAINES REHAB CENTER’S ARE NOT LICENSED!!!

    NAATP, BY ALLOWING HIM TO PUT ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT HE IS LICENSED, IS ‘ENABLING’ ( A WORD YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH JOHN) HIM TO CONTINUE THIS FRAUD/FALSE ADVERTISING.

    THEY ( NAATP) BY THEIR ‘ NEGLIGENCE’ ARE ALLOWING JOHN HAINES TO CONTINUE TO ” MISLEAD PEOPLE.”

    YOU PEOPLE AT NAATP NEED TO SMARTEN UP AND START TO CHECK WHAT PEOPLE ARE PUTTING ON YOUR WEBSITE!!!

    National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers – NAATP
    Phone (561) 429-4527 – Fax (561) 429-4650

    Michael E. Walsh, MS, CAP, BRI I -President and CEO

    mwalsh@naatp.org

    Amy Greenburg – Office Manager – EMAIL – agreenburg@naatp.org

  67. comebullymejohn says:

    Admin,

    Rehab Loser John Haines caught in MORE LIES. I understand CARF’s LEGAL DEPT DIDN’T THINK IT WAS FUNNY!

    http://www.reviewstalk.com/complaints-reviews/vita-novus-muskoka-recovery-center-reviews-complaints-l33878/page/2

    YEAH, NOTHING TO SAY….., GOT CAUGHT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN??? YES, JOHN, CARF’S LEGAL PEOPLE DON’T THINK IT’S FUNNY EITHER. DAWN DIDN’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A MEETING WITH VITA NOVUS. SHE DID HOWEVER SAY………,

    Dawn Pickering CARF Canada
    Thank you for bringing this to our attention. As evidenced by the web-site, Vita Novus is NOT Accredited by CARF!

    Regards, Dawn
    ( FOR MORE INFORMATION ( EMAIL: dpickering@carf.org ))

    KEEP SHOVING THAT COCAINE UP YOUR NOSE, LOSER – COME AND GET ME JOHN!

    REALLY, NOW IT A REGISTRATION NUMBER. I THOUGH YOU WERE A CARF MEMBER??

    YOU SAID SO…., THE THINGS YOU SAY WHEN YOUR “SNORTING COCAINE” IS FUNNY. BUT THIS TIME…., WELL…, CARF’S LEGAL PEOPLE DIDN’T THINK IT WAS FUNNY. THEY HAVE HAD TO “DEAL” WITH YOU ON MANY OCCASIONS, RIGHT JOHN?? WELL, THEY WILLL BE “DEALING” WITH YOU AGAIN!!!

    ((RIGHT HERE JOHN!))
    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/vita-novus-new-life-recovery-center-stouffville-ontario-c353871.html?page=17

    30th of Nov, 2013 by Brian Vita Novus
    EMAIL AND ASK ABOUT OUR MEMBER NUMBER – VITA NOVUS CARF # 249203

    http://www.reviewstalk.com/complaints-reviews/vita-novus-pickerel-lake-recovery-muskoka-recovery-addiction-canada-treatment-network-l33877.html

    JOHN HAINES SAYS:

    YES PEOPLE CALL CARF LEGAL DEPT AND POINT THEM TO YOUR SLANDER ON HERE

    POINT OUT AND GIVE THEM THAT NUMBER – 249203 THAT’S VITA NOVUS REGISTRATION NUMBER

  68. liesbyconmanjohnhaines says:

    So if understand Correctly? John, you are using a Company called, Jellable Services for your website, and this is also the Company who sent a “legal request,” as Google puts it, for Google to Remove some the COMPLAINTS ON THE INTERNET AGAINST YOU? Is This Correct??

    http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=1191601

    So, if you Google: Vita Novus, Vita Novus Carf, or Addiction Canada Treatment Network, on the bottom of your page you will see a NOTICE by Google about this. Click the Google Notice to see the Cease and Desist “Request” by Jellable Services on behalf of John Haines.

    Here is a few of the Sites. If you need this information for COURT or FOR ANY OTHER LEGAL MATTERS regarding John Haines, COPY AND SAVE THE INFORMATION NOW!

    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/vita-novus-new-life-recovery-center-stouffville-ontario-c353871.html

    http://www.reviewstalk.com/complaints-reviews/illegal-rehab-operation-vita-novus-addiction-canada-treatment-network-john-haines-l32821.html

  69. rehabcomplaints says:

    Addiction Canada / Vita Novus, Toronto Complaints & Reviews – False advertising, misleading clients, neglect, fraud – Addiction Canada / Vita Novus Contacts & Informations

    Posted: 2014-06-29 by Marlys Wolf3e

    False advertising, misleading clients, neglect, fraud

    addictioncanada.ca

    My daughter was told by the hospital in B.C. she was suffering withdrawals from methadone which was prescribed by a doctor to treat her pancreatitis pain. She had an addiction to alcohol that caused the pancreatitis it was told to her and so she wanted to enter a treatment center for this purpose and also to be able to “get off” methadone. Addiction Canada representative, Keith Singer advised that their treatment facilitiy could handle both her addiction to alcohol and any health problems she had due to her pancreatitus…just get her on the plane and the facility’s medical staff could take care of it all. Keith knew that we were in a merry go round of attack, hospital admittance, shot up with morphine for pain, released, three days later another attack, back to the hospital.

    My daughter went right from the hospital in B.C. and flew to Toronto to be met by a nurse from the Addiction Canada center. My daughter was sick the whole flight and ended up in the Toronto hospital and then released to Addiction Canada. The first week she was there they took her Bu Trans patch off that was prescribed by her doctor in B.C. (she was down to 15 ml per week) (this is the same patch that they represented on their website that they used for a medically controlled detox yet they took off her patch and let her “rip”) . My daughter was extremely sick all the first week and we chalked it up to “detoxing” but I had much difficulty in getting the center to do what they said they were going to do i.e. sending the family part of the program to do online; having anyone call me with regard to their assessment of my daughter’s health and “detox”; what their program was going to be; diet; etc. no one would return calls…twice I had to call the fellow from Drug Rehab Services who had recommended this center to intervene to try and get anyone to call; the second week my daughter was sent to their Pickerel Lake facility where she was still constantly having attacks all week and the last incident she had to insist on an ambulance when she was throwing up blood and their staff would not call her an ambulance.

    At this point we are both thinking that something is wrong and the hospital told her on this last visit that the two drugs that the center had been prescribing should never have been prescribed together especially with Pancreatitis and her pancreas was now totally inflamed. The Pickerel Lake sent her back to the Caledon center where she continued to have attacks. I spoke to the doctor at that center and suggested they check her stent as something must be wrong…it was put in March 3rd so maybe it is blocked. He asked me to send the report from this operation which I did the same day and then I don’t hear anything for three days.

    I finally get someone to take my call after three days and the nurse advised that they were “waiting” for our doctor from B.C. to give them the go ahead to remove or replace the stent because they don’t want to “overdoctor” …(her doctor never got any call or communication from the center).I tell them that they have a hospital there, have them check it…no doctor is going to give a go ahead with anything without having the patient there to check…the next thing that happened is that I get a call from the center’s doctor telling me that he thinks there might be a link to my daughter wanting morphine because she is in the hospital every three days in pain and gets a shot of morphine.

    I replied “why are you letting them give her narcotics then if she has to withdraw from these shots” He told me that my daughter has to be the one that tells the hospital “no narcotics” to which I asked him if he had talked to my daughter about this and he said no so I said I would talk to her about it…once I talked to my daughter about this that they think she is having attacks from “morphine withdrawal” now so she said that she would not take the morphine pain shot if she ended up in the hospital again but would now try to go through the next attack without going to the hospital. I phoned the doctor back to “remind” him that it usually helps if she got gravol at the very onset of an attack to prevent a full blown vomiting for 12 hours.

    The doctor never phoned me back. In any case, my daughter had an attack the next day, it took 6 hours for the center’s staff to get her gravol after my daughter asking and them saying 5 minutes, 5 minutes. Then they put her in detox because she was vomiting so much and told her she had to stay there until her vomiting was over so they could keep an eye on her. Later on when my daughter went to leave, they kept telling her to wait until a doctor could see her…5 min, 5 min…finally my daughter left the detox area and now was waiting in the line up to get some soup when the counsellor from the detox area beligerently yelled at her in front of the whole dining room that she needed to get back to detox and when my daughter told her she was not in detox and was only supposed to remain there will vomiting, the counsellor physically stood in front of her to try and prevent her from continuing in the line up. When my daughter just went around her, the counsellor later came to her room and accused her of “drug seeking” and discharged her. My daughter had no phone, they called her a cab and she had to go to a hotel and try and get on a flight home as she had nowhere to go .

    When I called the centre, they had no doctor, administrator or anyone in charge to speak to me . They told me everyone had left for the weekend. My daughter never received any report on her discharge or papers, we have never received the center’s copy of their rules even after having requested them. My daughter went to the hospital in B.C. the next day after she got home., they did tests, replaced her stent (they told her it was totally blocked)and she has not been sick a day since. Had the center been a little bit professional none of this had to go on so long and she maybe could have been learning the tools for which she was there in the first place – alcohol addiction. They discharged her because they did not know what to do with her health problem and yet they would not refund any of the money that we had to pay in advance of going there. She was there 21 days out of 64 which she should have been there for. This company is a total fraud, misrepresenting and taking advantage of people who are unable to defend themselves…it seems it would be an easy prey for them.

    I am not only dissappointed in their ethics of not refunding our money but I am disgusted how a company can have such an immoral and unprofessional way of treating people and doing business!!!

    JOHN HAINES ADVERTISES 24/7 LICENSED SECURITY…, DOCTORS AND NURSES. WHERE WAS YOUR SECURITY? WHERE WAS YOUR DOCTORS WHEN ONE OF YOUR CLIENTS WAS THROWING UP BLOOD? YOU CERTIFIED AND ACCREDITED STAFF DIDN’T WANT TO CALL AN AMBULANCE? WHY???

  70. rehabcomplaints says:

    29th of May, 2014 by lovingmotherofanaddict

    What a horrible ordeal i have gone through with these people…i put my son in here thinking i was helping him, he never stood a chance at sobriety it was all about money and connie the so called interventionist put so much pressure on me made me feel like a bad mom if i did not send him there. boy do we have a story to share I am currently in the process of suing i am not afraid of you John Haines you should be ashamed of yourself.

    If anyone is interested in joining me in a class action law suit lets shut this place down once and for all and stop him from ruining more lives. The more people have a factual story to share the better. I know from what we as a family are dealing with is direct cause of my son being there, he came out a million times worse than he went in. and when he relapsed he was told he was allowed to go back FREE OF CHARGE…not the case CONNIE wanted an additional 5000 dollars for the DETOX… you would have thought i would have gotten at least one phone call to find out how my son was after i told her he relapsed after all she is suppose to be a CARING person…please please do not send any one to this hell or any other facility run by him. …

    please join me in a law suit for these two people and if you have ever worked for any of his facilities is you have a shred on integrity and know of wrong or illegal activity help these poor people who went there to try and make there lives better as was promised to them…one concerend and loving mother

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